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Talkinpeace · 21/10/2026 22:15

she is the best

BreadInCaptivity · 21/10/2026 22:15

She’s a bloody legend.

Cattywillow · 21/10/2026 22:14

So good. And as always so well expressed.

GailBlancheViola · 21/10/2026 22:13

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/10/2026 19:01

Large numbers of women who’ve never been poor, who’ve never worked the kind of job where they’d be vulnerable to predatory men and who’ve never needed a rape crisis centre have spent the last few years vilifying members of their own sex for fighting to retain their hard-won rights and single-sex spaces, in ways that have shocked and disgusted me. I freely confess that I feel an extra layer of abhorrence for any woman who claims to be a feminist while doing it.

Brava, my sentiments exactly 👏

Mine too.

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 22:11

MarieDeGournay · 21/10/2026 22:06

You haven't read what she actually wrote, have you?
It's almost as if you already had a 'JKR-response' all primed and ready, and actually reading, absorbing and understanding what she actually wrote would be a waste of time.

Note that anyone is free to read, absorb and understand what JKR wrote, and then disagree with it, argue against it, critique it.

But superficial reflex negative responses which don't engage with the actual text as written don't carry much weight .

Oh I read it alright. Must be very disheartening as it was for Churchill (who she ironically & hilariously compared herself to) to be 'cast aside' by all the 'ingrates'.

Maybe rallying the 'troops' with this inspiring war cry will do it!

HenriettaSwanLeavitt2 · 21/10/2026 22:09

MarieDeGournay · 21/10/2026 22:06

You haven't read what she actually wrote, have you?
It's almost as if you already had a 'JKR-response' all primed and ready, and actually reading, absorbing and understanding what she actually wrote would be a waste of time.

Note that anyone is free to read, absorb and understand what JKR wrote, and then disagree with it, argue against it, critique it.

But superficial reflex negative responses which don't engage with the actual text as written don't carry much weight .

I always wonder if the people who won't read what she writes are actually terrified that they might agree with her.

Vargas · 21/10/2026 22:07

Genuinely one of most admirable women, nay people, in the world. Absolute queen.

MarieDeGournay · 21/10/2026 22:06

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 21:39

So what's the 'update'?

JKR is very angry. She's especially angry with women who won't agree with her that trans people are a danger. She thinks these women must live in an elite bubble where violence never happens.

Or maybe, just maybe they live in the real world not a castle & never noticed a dangerous trans woman.

Yes indeed Joanne, experience does shape one's perceptions.

Edited

You haven't read what she actually wrote, have you?
It's almost as if you already had a 'JKR-response' all primed and ready, and actually reading, absorbing and understanding what she actually wrote would be a waste of time.

Note that anyone is free to read, absorb and understand what JKR wrote, and then disagree with it, argue against it, critique it.

But superficial reflex negative responses which don't engage with the actual text as written don't carry much weight .

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 22:04

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/10/2026 22:01

The last trans woman I met was a sex offender.

Clearly not the experience of the masses of disinterested women in this issue.

As JKR said, experience shapes our fears.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 21/10/2026 22:04

Howse that? 🤔

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 22:02

EdithStourton · 21/10/2026 22:00

Maybe's she pissed off by public bodies continuing to break the law, knowing that it's tax payers' money they'll be wasting as the court cases roll around.

God knows, I'm angry, so can 100% understand why she would be.

Such are the consequences of vague impractical laws that implicate public bodies. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/10/2026 22:02

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 21:56

So what's the real reason for the 'update'? To warm over cold left overs? I think not. This is a highly strategic individual.

Maybe JKR is raging that the trans panic has lost steam/public interest (read: her personal relevance as defender of the faith) & this is a desperate attempt resuscitate it? The minions have lost interest in their shiny toy & moved on to other rage bait?

Oh well, such is the life span of a news cycle nowadays that even a billionaire can't buy…

Edited

Yet she still appears to live rent free in your head. Must be annoying.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/10/2026 22:01

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 21:39

So what's the 'update'?

JKR is very angry. She's especially angry with women who won't agree with her that trans people are a danger. She thinks these women must live in an elite bubble where violence never happens.

Or maybe, just maybe they live in the real world not a castle & never noticed a dangerous trans woman.

Yes indeed Joanne, experience does shape one's perceptions.

Edited

The last trans woman I met was a sex offender.

EdithStourton · 21/10/2026 22:00

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 21:56

So what's the real reason for the 'update'? To warm over cold left overs? I think not. This is a highly strategic individual.

Maybe JKR is raging that the trans panic has lost steam/public interest (read: her personal relevance as defender of the faith) & this is a desperate attempt resuscitate it? The minions have lost interest in their shiny toy & moved on to other rage bait?

Oh well, such is the life span of a news cycle nowadays that even a billionaire can't buy…

Edited

Maybe's she pissed off by public bodies continuing to break the law, knowing that it's tax payers' money they'll be wasting as the court cases roll around.

God knows, I'm angry, so can 100% understand why she would be.

Helleofabore · 21/10/2026 21:59

I suspect the nhs policy change has been part of the motivation for the update. It would make sense. It is a significant policy to have clarified.

EdithStourton · 21/10/2026 21:57

She is brilliant, so lucid and clear.

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 21:56

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/10/2026 17:05

So what's the real reason for the 'update'? To warm over cold left overs? I think not. This is a highly strategic individual.

Maybe JKR is raging that the trans panic has lost steam/public interest (read: her personal relevance as defender of the faith) & this is a desperate attempt resuscitate it? The minions have lost interest in their shiny toy & moved on to other rage bait?

Oh well, such is the life span of a news cycle nowadays that even a billionaire can't buy…

teawamutu · 21/10/2026 21:49

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 21:39

So what's the 'update'?

JKR is very angry. She's especially angry with women who won't agree with her that trans people are a danger. She thinks these women must live in an elite bubble where violence never happens.

Or maybe, just maybe they live in the real world not a castle & never noticed a dangerous trans woman.

Yes indeed Joanne, experience does shape one's perceptions.

Edited

Anyone else spot the TRA tell?

I'd say 'nice try', if only it was.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 21/10/2026 21:43

Or maybe, just maybe they live in the real world not a castle & never noticed a dangerous trans woman man

fixed that for you

HenriettaSwanLeavitt2 · 21/10/2026 21:41

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 21:39

So what's the 'update'?

JKR is very angry. She's especially angry with women who won't agree with her that trans people are a danger. She thinks these women must live in an elite bubble where violence never happens.

Or maybe, just maybe they live in the real world not a castle & never noticed a dangerous trans woman.

Yes indeed Joanne, experience does shape one's perceptions.

Edited

Men as a sex-class do present a danger to women. But you know that.
Congrats for being the first naysayer on this thread though🏅

CoolforKats · 21/10/2026 21:39

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/10/2026 17:05

So what's the 'update'?

JKR is very angry. She's especially angry with women who won't agree with her that trans people are a danger. She thinks these women must live in an elite bubble where violence never happens.

Or maybe, just maybe they live in the real world not a castle & never noticed a dangerous trans woman.

Yes indeed Joanne, experience does shape one's perceptions.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 21/10/2026 19:49

Margaritaaahhh · 21/10/2026 17:40

She should consider a career as a writer.

😂

Imdunfer · 21/10/2026 19:49

IwantToRetire · 21/10/2026 19:10

Why would you start a thread about that on FWR which exists so that women can say that.

If you really wanted an answer you should have posted on Feminist Chat which is for be kind feminists.

Hopefully now that we have FWR we can move beyond the same old pressure to justify ourselves.

The important question is as we know or agree is what do we do know.

We many not have JKR's public reach, or financial resources, but can do something?

Well pardon me for not being completely cognisant of what parts of the huge Mumsnet site actually exist 🤣

I started the thread in a section that regularly discusses feminism, sex and gender because I wanted a debate on whether you could be a feminist and fully support all the demanded trans rights. It was an interesting and for the most part very good natured discussion.

Why on earth are you addressing me as if I'm a "be kind feminist"?

PS not one person on the many, many pages of that thread suggested that it was in the wrong place.

Myalternate · 21/10/2026 19:49

💚🤍💜 Exemplary ⭐

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/10/2026 19:47

MissFancyDay · 21/10/2026 19:31

I remember the day she joined properly (not the senior moment) I just felt such a massive wave of relief.

Thank you J.K. for all that you do, I know it must be really difficult sometimes, and we all know how much you have sacrificed for your stand on this.

There are millions of women who will be eternally grateful. Also to all the other wonderful women that have put their heads above the parapet.

Me too, I was so upset about the Forstater case, I remember I was in a pub in Dublin just before Xmas 2019 when that was handed down, and then she posted her tweet and like others, it was such a relief, I was tearful!

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