"We" can always tell

So you looked 😆

Not so, you sent me a dm asking if I also posted elsewhere, I said I didn't. All amicable.

I meant the words used in your username, rather than you as a poster, who, sorry, I had completely forgotten.

Heads up. MN have replied to your thread on Site Stuff.
Probably not the response you were after.

Why would you object to a list focusing on women? Especially for something this grave.

You recognise my name because you direct messaged me.

How is a list of women killed by men - 'these kind of lists' - different from any other kind of list of people who are in a certain category, like 'pedestrians killed in RTAs' or 'women with osteoporosis' or 'residents of Westport with children under 5'

If someone was mistakenly listed as having children under 5 when in fact their kids were in their teens, their name would be removed from the list not because they were deemed 'unworthy', but because they did not belong to the category being listed.

Is there something wrong with restricting lists of people to the people who are being listed?

Like an anti Occam's razor.

It was exactly what it appeared to be, a statement of fact. Neither compliment nor insult, just fact.

I recognise your username, I know your views, so I know you would not respect me because of my views anyway, regardless of what I may or may not say on this specific thread about this specific scenario.

It's not a complicated statement. You've put more effort into finding ways to misunderstand it than it would have taken you to just take it at face value. 😂

Genderism in a nutshell really. Dance everywhere except the simple and obvious place, because the simple and obvious place is the last place they want to have to go.

Of course!

Women's rights are very important to me, as is the space FWR allows to analyse the inherent sexism within Genderism.

I notice who posts and what they say, both here and on the regular "FWR is so awful" "I know" threads that pop up from time to time trying to pessurise MN to muzzle or ban Gender Critical Feminist discourse.

It's probably an ND thing, I do remember details and see patterns about things I focus on. It seems to be an innate quality and I am actually paid quite well for it. I do tend to forget many people don't have the same ability (I get that feedback at work as well)

This not replying isn’t go well, is it?

No it was a bit weird trying to give the benefit of the doubt.

Everyone here acknowledges there is a problem with male violence. (Well, almost everyone)

The username rang a bell. Ignoring the Joe Jackson song, the 1996 film explains a lot.

This is a list of women killed by men.

What exactly are they 'unworthy' of?

Genuinely confused at what point it is you think you are making.

Could you state anything any more obvious? This idea that people need to be seen to publicly condemn every single awful thing that other people do is ridiculous. OBVIOUSLY harassing bereaved family members is wrong. The word 'harassing' is a bit of a clue.

I don’t think it was a compliment.

And there was the woman beaten up standing in the queue for the ladies because some bloke though she wasn't feminine enough to be a woman and he was 'protecting' his wife who was also in the queue.

Yes this is relevant. It’s part of why women ask for single sex spaces.

I think it might be more frustration that not everyone is submissive and does what they are told 🤔

one of the issues we have in society at present is that people personalise everything...

they take their situation and extrapolate upwards to the general - of course individual situations are terribly sad - a child who is run over / a person who gets cancer / someone who loses their job - all terrible for the individuals and those around them - but we still need to also understand patterns at a national level - is a child being run over every day all over the country, or was it a one-off - changes traffic policy / only one person with cancer, or an increasing % nationally - changes NHS policy / just one job loss, or the start of entering a recession - might change government policy...

we can not as a society allow those who are close to someone who has suffered to effectively bully society in other areas - it is terribly sad, but we still need to understand national stats...

and when a woman is injured or killed by a man - that is a pattern we need to understand nationally - conceptually a simple statistic, made tricky by the insistance by a tiny minority that anyone can be a man or woman as they choose - this adds layers of complexity to understanding accurate stats, and it means that occasionally a mistake might be made...

the apology was issued, and details corrected, but we can't allow emotion at that one scenario to get out of hand and damage what we also need to understand nationally - and knowing these stats is important (more important would of course be to do something about it!).

So, yes it is sad for the family concerned, but it was an understandable mistake which only happened because of the cultural confusion instigated by those promote an alternative reality in which sex is changeable -so we must:

• not make these mistakes where possible (and apologise if they happen)
• continue to record violence against women
• fight back for clarity and truth around sex being natal and immutable.

You’d have been better off sticking to the ‘not replying’ line. This ^ is just nonsense.

Good, because I don't. But you do mine. Thanks!

So Rhinos is excluded from the 'all' in "You know what I think of you all"?

So confusing.

Is a list of women killed by men a list of the unworthy now? Because that's what you seem to be saying.

No worries. I recognise your username and know your views about views like mine. You don't need to recognise my name.

Sorry, I don't have a clue who you are.