"We" can always tell

Still waiting for the condemnation of the OP for starting this thread, presumably intended to direct abuse and harassment at Karen Ingala Smith and the Counting Dead Women account.

You've missed it. FWR, for example, at least twice in this very thread.

As usual, you have indeed missed it.

You questioned why the sex of the person would matter, why anyone would have a view on it. In the case of a list of women, the answer to that is blindingly obvious to most people.

Are you now acknowledging that the sex of the people on the list does matter?

Well, exactly!

Any such evidence would typically require stalking levels of investigation, given the anonymity of MN and other platforms, such as X. But the plausibility of an accusation is often not important, the accusation does its work just by being out there, and many people won't consider whether it has any truth behind it.

Quite. We don't see the 'wanting to live a quiet authentic life' brigade calling out the violent TRAs.

I'm not responsible for something a total stranger to me posts. Are you personally responsible for some of the disgusting behaviour/attitude of trans activists, including some that have posted here?

We've established that.

This thread seems to be just an excuse to berate people for backing women's sex based protections and for understanding the reality of sex and why it sometimes matters.

They don't care. She wasn't feminine enough to pass their bizarre standards so she was fair game. It's utterly disgusting. Unless I've missed it but not a single GC person here has condemned the GC people who harassed the woman who posts the list because they had decided this woman was trans. It speaks volumes about their true motives.

Yes, and the list has been amended and apologies given.

But we are in a place where because so many men pretend to be women, that we question things. And especially those where data is important. We all know who put us in that place, and it wasn't women.

SHE WAS A WOMAN.

It. Is. A List. Of. Dead. Women.

Do you have an objection to a list of women killed by men existing?

Whose interests are served by people having a very unhealthy view on the sex of a dead person? They are dead! They have a mother. Imagine being that mother whose daughter has died and is being called a man on social media?

You can all say, "we didn't engage", "we reported it" , sounds nice, then you continue to double down ranting about statistics, media and blaming everyone but the people who caused this, plus insulting women who disagree with you.

GCs caused it. And continue to perpetuate it.

No-one should be questioning the sex of any trans person either, but lots of people do. They are of course the sex they have always been, the sex observed at birth except in a small number of people with ambiguous genitalia because of a handful of specific DSDs.

Because they heard it from someone...or read something that someone else said about it...or didn't check the original source...or believed a rumour...or repeated it without thinking...and got it wrong....

The irony

Because words are literal violence. Or something.

I assumed the poster was referring to this, below.

For "beaten up" read "shouted, approached and touched on shoulder".
None of which should have happened, of course.
But I wonder why the poster wrote "beaten up"?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/12/ive-been-spat-on-gender-non-conforming-women-tell-of-toilet-abuse-in-aftermath-of-supreme-court-ruling

Was that the fox killers wife or another one?

do you really think that evidence comes into the equation? 😂

if evidence were needed on both sides of the discussion here, there would only be one side - that of truth and reality... those against such an approach don't like to have to use evidence - they like to change the meanings of words / they like to pretend / claim injustice and harassment - evidence is an obstruction to their arguments!

You have evidence that people on MN went off site to harass someone?

Also diverted attention from my actual questions:

Different believes no one should be "questioning the sex of a dead petlrson"

I totally agree in front of greiving relatives, or in a nasty way, of course not.

But Never? Why not?

And for how long is that prohibition in place?

Whose interests are served by making sex unsayable?

Any other meaningful questions one can no longer ask?

(Someone needs to tell the archaeologists for a start!)

Exactly. Women say no. And the abuse, threats and violence is in return.

GC women don't threaten rape and murder towards transpeople. The violence and vileness is entirely one sided.

Well of course, i wasn't going to accuse you of lying if you hadn't. It was merely a misrepresentation of the interaction on your part. But yes, I did check as I had forgotten it, given it was a trivial if polite question and answer.