Redvers v NHS Sussex Integrated Care Board & Mr Adam Doyle Thread 2

Final point from CM

Judge wants to ask qs before lunch.

Everyone sit back down.

From TT

CM you were not aware at this point that the LEA had asked for slurs to be placed on the record after the re-circulation
PF I was not aware but I did check later not on the record
CM your thoughts on efficacy of recirculation
PF not for me to say
CM why were notes withheld from C?
PF I don't know
J what notes
CM - the minutes of the meeting
J she had transcript
CM PF you knew that C did not have copy of full minutes
PF I can't recall
CM first time C saw this document was on 18 Sept 2026. did you know that she didn't have a copy
PF I think I did know she didn't have copy
CM so you had a copy and she didn't, why
PF I think I had advice that this was to do with personal data [me - oh aye]
CM but not even the composition and lack of permanent safeguarding presence PF I wasn't part of the THIB or formation
CM what I am putting to you is that the C doesn't know that the value you circulation had taken place at the beginning of August meeting, but you did
PF but what information are you talking about 🙄
J recounting, you asked to see minutes, you were given minutes, you were told not given to C because of FOI team,
PF yes
J so any new information, she didn't have
PF yes at time of g/x
CM final point from me, you say that C seemed to accept rationale of your decision
PF where in WS
CM para 46, however within 5 days of rec'ng outcome letter, she had resigned

CM did really well with his 15 minutes, he was only a smidge over.

And the track played immediately after the piece was Soul II Soul Back to Life (Back to Reality) - I don’ t think that was a coincidental play.

Judge done.

R counsel asking brief qs.

Witness finished

One witness left.

Break for lunch

Back at 2.15 pm

From TT

J I have four or five questions, can you carry on
PF I probably could but I'm also happy to break over lunch
J on page 3033, g/x outcome meeting notes, you suggest confid tele convo with Michael Brown, was that done
PF don't know if it was done, left org soon after
J can someone tell me where the slides are that were circulated, doesn't have to be now, last question you were asked about para 31 of your statement, about SH right to leave meeting, not get further drawn in, right for him to say 'can someone else fill in the gaps'
PF LB said 'filling in the gaps' was in reference to NHS policy and consultation, not refer to C.
J any re-exam
BW outcome letter, on 3199, THIB 2nd para, can confirm that values were explicitly confirmed by chair at beginning of the meeting.

It was a typo.

In defence it was expressed in a very convoluted way

So they had grievance investigation in which no conclusion or outcome was intended by this witness, have I got that right?

Today morning part 1

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2110994323898786295.html

Today morning part 2

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2111044278218531293.html

TT substack

https://substack.com/home/post/p-218906910

Maya Forstater has been a guest on Times Radio just now. The first comment on X re her slot is from India W. It is utterly vile and also appears to tell the PM to FO

India Willoughby • @IndiaWilloughby •13m

Doctors know what anatomy their patients are. They have records. This is about your vile, sniggering, bullying of a minority - who you want tormented. You are a gross lump of shit Maya. And yes, I'm being as offensive as you are being. Disgusting that @UKLabour @bphillipsonMP and our warped @EHRC allow this. You can all fuck off. @andyburnham

At this point someone needs to stage an intervention he is increasingly manic on this subject. I am concerned he may harm someone physically, including himself he’s getting so animated these days. Hopefully he has some decent people around him to help and support him. I mean this genuinely. His anger and venom these days is on a new level.

Seems so.

During which they also wondered about whether SR should be investigated herself, but unfortunately the external people they could have contacted about this had left the organisation/s.

But they couldn't contact external people in support of SR because that's against the rules.

okaaaay.

Thanks so much everyone and also todays c and p@BettyBooper. I've been following earlier from the outpatients at the local hospital. A very long wait as they were creaking at the seams.

All a bit surreal. I found myself giving anyone who looked vaguely "management" the side eye.
Just in case.😄

Thank you very much to everyone who has cut & paste. I worked at the ICB during this period and sadly nothing so far has been a shock. Adam Doyle was largely regarded as a bully, as were many/most of his leadership team. Staff doing the work (like Dr R) were cannon fodder and treated appallingly- I had a colleague who was told she wouldn’t be matched into a job during redundancy where she was the only suitable candidate because she couldn’t work full time due to health issues! There was an attitude of fear and collusion with the entire trans issue.

God he is vile isn't he. He embodies all the worse elements of male entitlement.

Wow, interesting.

So I'm guessing you wouldn't agree with AD's self-assessment of making massive progress in improving staff morale? 😂

Not even a tiny bit

Did he claim improvement or just massive progress of change in staff morale?

You're welcome.

I reckon we need Tanya de Grunwald to take over NHS HR and clear out all the crap!

@BlueLegume that Willoughby rant is vitriolic. The man does indeed need an intervention of some kind. He seems to spend his life obsessing over women who speak up for other women and inventing transgressions. My concern is that he's going to hurt someone when he eventually fully implodes.

It's so deeply scary and worrying blokes like Willoughby are accessing female spaces. And poor Maya, women who speak up- to whom I'm so grateful- are still getting abuse.

(And as an aside, Willoughby is a father. This is relevant also because of the Conversion Bill plans, where anyone not submitting to the demands/ beliefs of men like this eg family members can be arrested. I hope groups representing family members will be heard, but the MPs on the committee are so biassed they will ignore the women and girls most affected)

😂

The pre-prepared speeches of how he was sooooo busy, bringing together three teams, Covid, soooooo busy, soooooo effective, using different management styles, open door policy, moving forward. Always moving forward.

And it was a Good Thing that the number of complaints had gone up, because this showed people weren't afraid of speaking up. 😂

after reading that...

Imagine getting stuck in a lift with Adam Doyle AND Trump!!

IW has totally lost it.

Agree the behaviour is escalating very dangerously.