Redvers v NHS Sussex Integrated Care Board & Mr Adam Doyle Thread 2

From TT:

CM Whole process was contaminated by the process used
I accept that
CM Why when concerns of SG and clinicians that CPO cant sanction more work w them cld u challenge finding s of fact
I met all the colleagues. Clear some in SG had concenrs.

AD Many diff views expressed. All interviews done and then I'd take action at that point.
CM p1759: Durrants findings. [reads re diff being objective and fulfil freedom to speak policy]
Yes
CM No-one independent looked at whether shld persist

AD Was told to speak to eq chairs but I then also realised they were also freedom to speak (talked to Galliano). I gave Gx to her re how to move forward and she commissioned Durrant Ix.
J When aware of concerns u spoke to her again
Yes. She said to speak to eq commission chairs

CM After Cs Gx?
AD JG was my chair throughout. I'd had feedback throughout. This has happened - how shld I appraoch this?
CM Do u accept that 2 profess away from work for months
Yes
CM After C reduced her hrs before leaving and Flynn left
Yes

From TT:

CM Yr letter to DSH o p1894/5, u say procedurally flawed. So cld suggest C got off on a technicality
I cant speak to how wld be interpreted. The same language is used for all of the letters, incl Dr Flynn.
CM Do u acceptt the dilution of Durrant findings creates risk of further smears

CM by DSH?
I dont know
CM Detriment 9: p1184/5 emails. Likewise p1187/8. Can u put these on reading list? Both Brown and Davis point to chilling effect to fulfil profess obligations
Yes, I can see their concerns
CM Sept 21, just before Cs interogation by DA. Were Browns concerns?

CM Both are asking for the Ix to stop
AD I dont think they are asking for it to stop
CM [reading] yr being told as an org that this continuation is impeding drs from reporting which concerns patient safety
Yes
CM p1189: Ix concluded evid gathering and wont sanction getting more
Yes

From TT:

BW Thats not approp Q
CM I think it is
J Yr defence was drafted by solics
Yes
J Why does para 7 say this re inaccurate reflection
AD The Cs claim were fully and some partially upheld, so claim of full upholding was wrong

J The vast majority were upheld?
AD Yes
CM p162: para 9. Detriment 11: recom that Ix report is biased and proceedurally flawed
Yes
CM Defences on p141/2 and info on p174/5 u characterise only proceedural flaws and miss out bias and unreliability of report. Why latch onto one

CM procedural and not bias?
Dont know. I said they were unsound to use
CM You never said this
I cant see where said this
CM p196, u say it cant be relied on but only cos of procedural flaws. U dont use language unsound or bias
Yes
CM U do this w DSH

From TT:

CM The outcome letter. It's accurately reflected in that para. Text is quoted many times. The C says lifted from Durrant letter
AD Yes
CM Para 39 of defence p140, says not accepted the findings acc reflect his letter
Yes

CM When asked what that meant on p131 req 8, in R1s resistance, being specific. Said it wasnt accurate.
Yes
CM Yr statement in yr WS, para 87, [reads re disagreeing summary of letter isnt accurate reflection of it]
Yes
CM The C was xexam for 2 days but never put to her D's finding werent correct. Why are Rs gaslighting the C?

From TT:

AD I dont know the reason or understand why
CM p1774: wrt Flynns Ix [reads fast re DA not being bullying acc to MP. I find this interpretation surprising] Had audio been deleted this wldnt have come to light
Yes
CM Detriment 11: subjecting C to what's in para 14

CM Para 43 in partic of claim is what Durrant said happened in the Ix
J You're being chronological?
CM Yes. p76-8 set out suite of findings from Durrant letter re what happened in Ix. Corresp w letter on p1747

From TT:

CM He seems to find them dishonest
Yes
CM Plenty of egs, and DAs eg of what's important. The C in WS says DA asked if she was standing down from her role on p1013 [reading fast] But isnt in his summary. You as the commissioner must have been interested in this Q

AD I cant answer that as I wasnt there
CM We have a dishonest investigator
Yes
CM The recording was deleted. Go to p100, following req for audio. [reads email from DA about not being able to provide audio and it being erased once served its purpose]

CM The C says is her data. The LEAs identity was willheld until last month
Yes
CM With yr knowledge. The data protection rights was used
I think that was R1 position
CM Why was ICB proposing to delete Cs data but save that of her villifier?

From TT:

The hearing has already started
J Let's crack on. Can you forward it to me
CM Detriment 8 - continued refusal to provide a copy of the recording. The passage in DA interview - p62 of witness bundle - should be 1076 and discussion w Michael

CM DA misled the C by saying had met Mr Brown when he hadn't. Re Dr Flynn and DA's account of this - p1069 - [reads re not following processes wasnt true] If we look at what's provided by witness notes by DA, his summary describes as a convo. His records on p1451,
AD I cant say no

I suppose it's quite likely that today will begin with legal wrangling over AD's diary, so we may be waiting a while?

From TT:

We will shortly be reporting the first morning session of day 6 of evidence of Redvers v NHS Sussex Integrated Care Board & Mr Adam Doyle at Croydon Employment Tribunal. Mr Doyle remains on the witness stand and we are due to resume at 10am. t.co/N6CSEtmdEY

Dr Redvers, a named GP safeguarding lead, has a constructive dismissal case. Clinical concerns were raised about a specific doctor at WellBN, a Brighton GP practice. She claims that as a result of escalating those claims from 2020 onwards, she was constructively dismissed.

Her legal claim is discrimination on the grounds of her employer’s perception she had gender critical beliefs and on the grounds of her protected belief in evidence-based medicine (EBM). The respondent defends the latter claim by pleading that EBM is just an opinion.

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Abbreviations:

J - Judge Katherine Andrews (sitting alone)
DR/C - Doctor Sarah Redvers, claimant
CM/RB - Chris Milsom, claimant barrister
CE/RB - Charlotte Elves, Claimant Barrister
PD - Peter Daly, solicitor for the C

NHSSICB/R1 - NHS Sussex Integrated Care Board, first respondent
AD/R2 - Adam Doyle, second respondent, CEO of R1 2019-2025
Rs - collectively the respondents
RB/BW - Ben Williams, Respondent's barrister
EBM - Evidence-based medicine
SG - Safeguarding

WB - WellBN, Brighton based GP practice
GC - Gender Critical or sex realist beliefs
GI - Gender Identity belief
WS - Witness Statement
Ix - investigation
Gx - grievance
Cx - complaint

SH/DSH - Dr Sam Hall, GP at WellBN, Trustee - the Clare Project (TCP), Clinical Lead - Trans Health Hub, GIC Partner - Trans Health Improvement Board at R1, trans-identified female
DA - Dusty Amroliwala, ext consultant, investigated complaint filed by DSH against C
LB - Lola Banjoko, Exec Managing Director, chair of Trans Health Improvement Board, advised R1 on trans matters
NC - Nikky Cambridge, former trustee of TCP

AC - Allison Cannon, Chief Nursing Officer, R1, tasked w implementing the recommendations of the 1st grievance outcome
CCD - Dr Claire Cochrane-Dyet, Dep Medical Director for System Improvement & Professional Standards, NHSE, commissioned Warshafsky Report
HD - Dr Hannah Davies, Deputy Chief Medical Office, R1

SD - Samantha Durrant, Lay vice chair until July 2022, 1st grievance manager
NE - Naomi Ellis, dep director of Safeguarding, R1
MF - Dr Mary Flynn, Named GP for Safeguarding, also filed g/x in relation to Amroliwala Report
PF - Pennie Ford, Executive Managing Director, R1, 2nd grievance manager

EG - Dr Elizabeth Gill, Chief Medical Officer, R1
HH - Hannah Hamilton, Chief financial officer, R1, 2nd grievance appeal manager
BJ - Dr Becky Jarvis, clinical lead for mental health, R1
TM - Tom Micklewright, managing partner of Lime Tree Surgery

IM - Ian Mundy, HR Consultant, Your Consultancy, 1st grievance investigator
MP - Mark Power, interim Chief People Officer (until April 2022), R1, managed Amroliwala investigation
RR - Dr Rebecca Richards, GP partner, Lime Tree Surgery, raised concerns to C about SH
AR - Anne Robson, Interim Chief People Officer (April -August 2022), R1

DS - Dr Dinesh Sinha, Chief Medical Officer (June 2022 - April 2024), Chair of Trans Health Improvement Board (THIB)
MS - Mark Smith, Chief People Officer, R1 (Aug 2022 - Jan 2025) Acting CEO (Jan 2025 - June 2025) Deputy CEO & Director of Transition (June 2025 - present)
RW - Dr Robin Warshafsky, GP NHSE, Author of Warshafsky Report (WR)