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Mmmnotsure · 15/10/2026 11:46

R's barrister in his interventions is surprisingly and unnecessarily antsy, also a tad theatrical. It may be a bit of a giveaway as to what he is thinking, sitting there and listening to his client.

CannyStrudel · 15/10/2026 11:37

BW Is a loaded Q

Well yes, I think that's the point.

fanOfBen · 15/10/2026 11:31

From TT:

Me, MP, I imagine Dyrrant, Investiagtor that worked w her. Also NHSE and GMC
CM WHat did u d/w these bodies
AD That had the report and Gx.
CM Did they need to understand what had gone wrong
AD I dont know what they knew then
CM email re Dr Hall can then share w Gary the business mger

AD Idk. MP may have shared
CM WB business model was in jeapordy cos of C. Isnt that what he's getting it
He says is impeded
CM U knew the C wld continue to raise concerns
No

CM U chose to undermine her
No Cm And concealed the undermining of her
No
CM Did u see a draft of this
Yes
CM ANd pushed back on what u thought was untrue
AD I had quite a lot of issues w it but didnt know how to appraoch it. Wanted to ask chair how best to progress. I wanted best outcome for e'one. Was a Cx and Gx.

CM para 24 of AR: in Summer 20 [reads re informal mentoring of DSH] Did you query this?
AD One of many things I thought was inaccurate but by that time I hadnt spoken to my chair
CM Is this a good time for a break
J Might you go beyond today?
CM I dont think so

J Please dont. I dont want to guillotine you so think about shortening yr questions over the break. Lets have a 15 min break.

COURT ADJOURNS

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Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:30

Judge having the realisation that this witness is here for the whole day!

Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:28

Ooooh! Mentoring....weasily words from AD.

Break for 15 mins

fanOfBen · 15/10/2026 11:24

From TT:

CM U say her reputation wasnt denigrated
Yes
CM U share the DA report
Yes
CM Do u accept her rep was harmed by yr actions
By the organisation
CM It was yr actions. Lookat p16 suppl, [reads re NHSE/ improvement raised whether drs cld continue to practice

CM in GP roles. So not just her ICB employment in sight but her status as a reg medic
Yes
CM Going thru pack of material following p27 of supp, April 22 email to Mr Toyne of WB re developing THC [reads fast]

CM How did WB know of the Cs Gx?
AD I understand when DSH met w re not being able to take forward I understood MP met him. I think he may have told DSH who then told his practice
CM Further up chain: CCD asking if can share report and discuss potential profess standards panel

AD We were clear had to get thru gX and cldnt rely on the 1st report. Was clear wld still take a while and cldnt update them
CM Re the Cs Sex orientation: how many ppl found out inappropriately? Yday I said imbalance of privacy rights
BW Is a loaded Q
CM Who saw the report

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Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:20

MyAmpleSheep · 15/10/2026 11:18

thank you… An interesting angle to courtroom artistry!

I'd like to see a montage of court artists sketches showing the amount of health and safety violations when it comes to cable management. I'm surprised no one has ever come to serious injury.

MyAmpleSheep · 15/10/2026 11:18

Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:17

It literally looks like this on screen

thank you… An interesting angle to courtroom artistry!

fanOfBen · 15/10/2026 11:18

From TT:

CM Look at email - why is this at bottom of page and not the top? Until last Monday?
AD I cant talk to that
CM U know of the Gx, serious concerns others have of process as well as the C
Yes
CM Read this to yrself.

CM U still urge expedition
A lot has happened here. I asked Gill for timeline and wanted Chair to know had the Cx, IX reort, MPs recommendations, trying to d/w chair that had 2 distressed gps and speed wld be helpful
CM Do u accept the C knew nothing about sharing report until

proceedings. Did u tell her
No I didnt
CM [reads re concerns of further referral to GMC] Yr pursuing the C
No
CM In a mtg w NHSE and GMC yr conveying concern re the C [missed]
AD DA interview list and ppl wanted to know where we were. NHSE regulate the ICB so asked where in process

AD Said e'thing paused whilst waited for Gx which Jill taking forward
CM This isnt in yr WS. Nothing on this
AD I dont know
CM There's a detriment claim of failure to SG Cs reputation. U say in yr WS. This is all detr 10-14.

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Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:17

MyAmpleSheep · 15/10/2026 11:14

I have regret at being the one asking to explain a joke, but as someone not watching the proceedings I still want to know- is the “missing leg” theme founded on the idea of “he hasn’t got a leg to stand on” or on the way the camera is placed (and the way he’s sitting), or both, or does he really have only one leg (which I think is unlikely and wouldn’t elicit the teasing he’s getting here)… asking for a friend?

It literally looks like this on screen

Redvers v NHS Sussex Integrated Care Board & Mr Adam Doyle Thread 2
EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 15/10/2026 11:16

There's a joke in there somewhere about not having a leg to stand on.

Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:15

Although I can currently see both!

Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:15

MyAmpleSheep · 15/10/2026 11:14

I have regret at being the one asking to explain a joke, but as someone not watching the proceedings I still want to know- is the “missing leg” theme founded on the idea of “he hasn’t got a leg to stand on” or on the way the camera is placed (and the way he’s sitting), or both, or does he really have only one leg (which I think is unlikely and wouldn’t elicit the teasing he’s getting here)… asking for a friend?

He has his legs crossed in such a way that from the angle we can see it looks like he only has one leg

Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:14

CM come off it Mr Doyle

😯

MyAmpleSheep · 15/10/2026 11:14

I have regret at being the one asking to explain a joke, but as someone not watching the proceedings I still want to know- is the “missing leg” theme founded on the idea of “he hasn’t got a leg to stand on” or on the way the camera is placed (and the way he’s sitting), or both, or does he really have only one leg (which I think is unlikely and wouldn’t elicit the teasing he’s getting here)… asking for a friend?

Hotty · 15/10/2026 11:13

@KeepupKardigans he's just a boy who can't say no.

fanOfBen · 15/10/2026 11:11

From TT:

CM p16 of supp: email AD in Jan 22 to Jill re final report and needing to make a decision. The GMC and NHSE involved and am mtg today to give progress. I have to make decisions re 2 drs. U say u hadnt done this yet before Gx, but after protected act presented the final

CM report is presented to GMC and NHSE
BW Thats misleading. The email is here about the top email
J Its an imp clarification
BW p1648 - thats the new one
CM I accept that
J Decision was after the protected act
CM Yes. Report shared in mtg u were at tog with Mark P on 12 Jan
Yes

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Boiledbeetle · 15/10/2026 11:11

Bloody phone rang, I've missed a whole chunk

KeepupKardigans · 15/10/2026 11:10

fanOfBen · 15/10/2026 10:21

From TT:

The hearing has already started
J Let's crack on. Can you forward it to me
CM Detriment 8 - continued refusal to provide a copy of the recording. The passage in DA interview - p62 of witness bundle - should be 1076 and discussion w Michael

CM DA misled the C by saying had met Mr Brown when he hadn't. Re Dr Flynn and DA's account of this - p1069 - [reads re not following processes wasnt true] If we look at what's provided by witness notes by DA, his summary describes as a convo. His records on p1451,
AD I cant say no

Is there an equivalent earworm to Shaggy’s ‘It Wasn’t Me’ to
AD’s ’ Can’t Say No’ when he should have said ‘yes’ in answer to a controversial question?

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 15/10/2026 11:08

Thehorticulturalhussie · 15/10/2026 10:58

He can't. Not with only one leg, the other having deserted him.

Perhaps his body doing a sort of family von Trapp? At some point today will we blink to discover only the laptop is left?

fanOfBen · 15/10/2026 11:06

From TT:

CM p1188: can the draft be shared before finalised for comment. Yr team were entitled to that surely?
AD Idk
CM In yr WS paras 77/8: u say u havent formed a view on outcome when Gx comes in
Yes
CM No action taken whilst Gx in
Yes
CM But Gx was about MP and process behind it
Yes

Correction: about AD
CM It's about you and u sent to yr personal email.
AD I gave to my chair and LM to say had received.
CM U hadnt got a view on the report
Yes. It asked many Qs. I wanted to speak to Gill. It asked many Qs. Then Gx arrived and I recused myself

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fanOfBen · 15/10/2026 11:05

From TT:

CM Did u overide concerns
I dont feel that I did. was v challenging and that was approach I took
CM U spent more time w DSH than yr own SG team in 21-22? Davis and Brown. Cld add Flynn.
AD Yes
CM Sum time spent to assuage the chilling effect was an away day a yr after the DA report he didnt attend

Yes
CM [ill health?] The C says in her WS that her dignity was violated and had a hostile environment. Central to this was DSHs objection to GMC and NHSE referrals. But u chose to commission reports
Yes. You chose DA
AD I met him yes
CM The impact, detr 10 and 7.

CM On 23 Oct Brown to MP: [reads re Ix and C being off sick and wanting timescales for report] Its impacting on our SG functions. When DA 1st saw DA report was in 2026 in dislosure
Yes
CM So u or the org has evid from her LM that the SG function and her health was impacted
Yes

But still prolongued
Yes
CM Nothing was done w report. It wld be wrong to continue w report as no independent adjudicator of DAs report
BW Thats after Durrants report
CM Report likely to be contested in Dec 21
AD I knew wld be some issue

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Mmmnotsure · 15/10/2026 11:05

The laptop may be deep cover. By its potentially self-sacrificing actions, it means that DA is facing the judge AND THE MIC, so we don't have the problem of people making sure their replies are somehow not clear.

Cailleach1 · 15/10/2026 11:02

Thehorticulturalhussie · 15/10/2026 10:58

He can't. Not with only one leg, the other having deserted him.

Along with the truth, some might suspect.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 15/10/2026 10:58

GailBlancheViola · 15/10/2026 10:29

I am surprised he has not made a bid for freedom!

He can't. Not with only one leg, the other having deserted him.