Today I discovered that Hinge can delete your account if as a straight male you complain about males appearing in your dating queue…

What has pregnancy got to do with it?

Nah

none of these people are expecting trans identified men to get pregnant

they don’t believe it

You think a ‘sizeable number’ of women would sign up to an app that markets itself as ‘female-only’ and claims to (and it’s the claim that’s important here) verify users are female, but not actually care whether they are in fact female? When there are other apps available that don’t make the same claims? Are the sizeable number in the room with you now?

Oh yeah, they’re being honest

they’re taking their fetish for a walk all over the app and being very honest about that

when someone shows you who they are etc

I think a sizeable number of the members wouldn't actually care if there were trans women, or fully support their presence. As long as they are also interested in meeting women. I don't think that a site that excluded trans women was a primary motivation for their core membership.

Well that is reality. Many people do believe it and the world has adapted to this belief. Sure you can use your social and political power to try and change things back, but to not acknowledge how things are is bordering on delusional. It's like this because people believe it.

If they are saying that they are men, aren't they simply being honest about their biological sex while using pictures to be honest about how they present?

What, accept that people with demonstrably nonsensical views should be making any kinds of decisions?

no thanks

and when you take such people to court, they lose. See the recent spate of court cases

Yikes

so they advertise themselves as men, post a profile pic of themselves dressed in a stereotypically feminine way and go looking for dates with women?

that’s so weird. You’ve got to wonder if it’s working for them

I think you just have to accept that many people do and that is why the world has adapted in the way it has. If barely anyone believed this, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The sexes are male and female. Explain again how users of an app heavily marketed as ‘female only’ (female being a sex) as oppose to ‘woman-only’ (possibly by ‘gender’) would generally believe that it would include transwomen?

I'm on dating sites (am female ), I've got my search set for men - I don't get transmen popping up on my matches but I do get a fair amount of transwomen. Usually very obvious men dressed as women.

I dont see how this makes sense.

‘Believing’ their sex was being verified. Try again.

If you think TWAW then you’re having some kind of psychotic break

humans don’t change sex

You keep saying that people signing up knew their sex was being tested. They did not. They knew their face was being tested to see if they looked masculine or not. That is why a male was ruled in, but women were ruled out.

I think if you think TWAW, then the app is female only.

Well hinge seems to label their section for this as "gender" and they use man, woman, etc.

You seem to be struggling with comprehension. I didn’t make any comment about how well the AI performed. Have another go.

You insinuated that this AI that they were using stopped the trans woman being on the site. It did not stop it for 7 months. In the meantime, the AI stopped women from signing up. It only stopped people It considered to look masculine from joining. It was never a sex test. More like a beauty assessment

Definitely very flexible at the mental gymnastics. I’m thinking this poster is from the US or TRA-nada given his or her use of the phrase ‘a bunch of women.’

More than that. Apparently ‘female’. So much for “sex and gender are different”.

The efficiency of the AI is irrelevant to the point of whether app users generally were aware of and comfortable with its intended use. Try another back flip.

Can anyone ever explain why some people think men are women?

What made them 'think' this absurdity?