Today I discovered that Hinge can delete your account if as a straight male you complain about males appearing in your dating queue…

From what I see, women who actually use apps are more likely to boycott an app because it doesn't include trans people in a way they deem satisfactory. It's all very well having the support of conservative family groups etc like Giggle did, but those people aren't spending money on said apps (well maybe some of the husbands but that's another story) so they can't actually keep the app in business.

I presume your friends have 'voted with their feet' and left the apps.

@Lexibletheflexible has already handily explained other reasons why apps really don’t do it. The technology isn’t there to guarantee compliance and many transgender people apparently believe they have literally changed sex and so will tick the sex they think they are (or lie as most people would characterise it). The ‘this is what users want’ is just bollocks.

That's a totally different thread and sort of irrelevant to the discussion.

That's a human problem. As I said, my friends on apps have men that match with them, just to send them abusive messages about why they find them unattractive or why my friend's deal breaker is unfair. To be fair, a male friend played me a crazy voice note from a woman recently who felt he took too long to reply.

But not until they’ve had abuse and threats for not accepting the approach of someone they don’t want.
it seems there’s some who think, “well I’m attracted to you=you have to accept me regardless of whether or not you I am to you”

It appears that my post pointing out that woman = person with a body that can get pregnant (let’s not do the ‘but what about infertile women?’ thing please, it’s tedious) has been deleted. Heaven knows why

so trying again

woman = person with a body that can get pregnant

everyone knows that

that’s why it’s relevant to this conversation

The site is a business. Like this site is a business. They will do what makes most sense to them as a business depending on their membership. Clients vote with their feet.

Blimey, you need some work in deeper thinking, you really do.
I do not know a single person who really believes that a trans woman is no different from a woman. They do it as a polite social kindness, not because they believe someone can change sex. Except for a few really gullible shallow thinkers who don’t understand biology much. Or who confuse superficial plastic surgery with changing sex.

The site have decided to do what trans activists are happy with because the activists have made the social and business cost of not doing so extremely high. We have seen the aggressive and violent protests that result when women meet to discuss things affecting female people away from trans women.

I am surprised if you have missed the immense social pressure to include trans people as if they were the opposite sex in all circumstances. Even when this is not the solution that most people prefer.

The site doesn’t know what their membership would prefer. They wouldn’t dare ask them in an anonymous survey because most people are attracted to sex primarily, and I would bet my house that a majority would like a filter by sex option.

But if they did this, it would be vicious attacks and piss protests all the way. So it is easier for them to go along with the pretence and encourage sex by deception.

The site is a business. Like this site is a business. They will do what makes most sense to them as a business depending on their membership. Clients vote with their feet.

The site is a business. Like this site is a business. They will do what makes most sense to them as a business depending on their membership. Clients vote with their feet.

I think you just have to accept that many people do and that is why the world has adapted in the way it has. If barely anyone believed this, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

No I'm just saying that there are limits to fre speech

I don't see how it has anything to do with the conversation.

The site have decided to do what trans activists are happy with because the activists have made the social and business cost of not doing so extremely high. We have seen the aggressive and violent protests that result when women meet to discuss things affecting female people away from trans women.

I am surprised if you have missed the immense social pressure to include trans people as if they were the opposite sex in all circumstances. Even when this is not the solution that most people prefer.

The site doesn’t know what their membership would prefer. They wouldn’t dare ask them in an anonymous survey because most people are attracted to sex primarily, and I would bet my house that a majority would like a filter by sex option.

But if they did this, it would be vicious attacks and piss protests all the way. So it is easier for them to go along with the pretence and encourage sex by deception.

Gee, thanks

quite the authoritarian aren’t you?

That is why i said it is site specific.

The people you are seeing and don't want to see are checking the "woman" box, though, aren't they? So that is why they show up when you want to see women. So again, that is because the site have decided to do what their membership are most happy with.

Find a dating site that is more aligned with what you want or create one since you know so much.

Sure, within the rules of the space you are in.

Indeed

and I am allowed to judge them

Sex lovey, sex

honestly, what do you think ‘man’ and ‘woman’ really mean? How do think babies are made?

Ok but humans are allowed to make dating profiles to find compatible partners.