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Men posting on ladies only interest groups

39 replies

Dahliasandpansies · 22/07/2023 17:02

I like trail running and am a member of a Facebook group which specifies 'ladies only'. Along comes a man, does a post about talking about wearing make-up whilst running. And everyone just goes along with it – tips, preferences etc. Why this continual insertion into our spaces? I wanted to post this but my Facebook page bio refers to my profession and company.

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Dahliasandpansies · 23/07/2023 10:47

Thanks so much. I've emailed the admin to let her know how much I love the group and is their a policy on this. Membership is about 30,000, but 270 people have still posted. They're not even in their bloody run kit!

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RealityFan · 23/07/2023 10:44

BatshitCrazyWoman · 23/07/2023 09:36

I'm on a fashion/clothes FB group that has three men on it. They post the most photos, and yes, lots of (transmaidens) women telling them they look amazing.

I'm in another similar group that has managed to avoid this, there must be some sort of vetting beforehand.

Men are the most competitive.
Have to be the strongest, the fastest.
The best at everything.
And now seemingly the best "women".

In the dim and distant past in the leftist movement it was the men who did all the running. You could call these the alphas, the boots first strikers, the smoke filled back rooms organisers. The supreme Marxist philosophers and anarchists.

Sure women could have their little side projects, their emancipation, their abortion and contraception. Just as long as they made the tea and sandwiches, and bandaged up the casualties at Orgreave etc.

For every one Barbara Castle and Shirley Williams, there were a hundred Tony Benns and Harold Wilsons and Bob Crows etc.

As the socialist movement then hit final defeat as the Berlin Wall fell, it coopted into capitalism, to fight the new "class" war, the intersectional one. Now it's a fight for labels, for BLM and for trans.

However now the alpha men have become the beta men. Those men who were never respected back in the day down the pubs and union meetings and anarchist back alleys and bedsits and back rooms.

Now the beta men hold sway, they are the ones donning masks and umbrellas and TWAW placards. And the ones invading your spaces.

The men on the left back in the day didn't give a shit about women's rights as they tried to take the boss class down. And they don't give a shit now as the betas have become the face and spirit of the new left movement.

Now instead of picking a fight with the bosses, they're picking a fight with the established groups holding back the new victims of the class battle, the trans.

And who's now the equivalent of the boss class who need to be pulled down for the new class liberation? Do I really need to say?

Right now, the betas get waved thru by the new intersectional warfare gatekeepers, including more women than you could ever imagine.

This is as fucked up as fucked up can be.

BatshitCrazyWoman · 23/07/2023 09:36

I'm on a fashion/clothes FB group that has three men on it. They post the most photos, and yes, lots of (transmaidens) women telling them they look amazing.

I'm in another similar group that has managed to avoid this, there must be some sort of vetting beforehand.

FrancescaContini · 23/07/2023 09:30

Next he’ll be asking for tips on how to deal with his period. Weirdo 😡You need to speak up.

Anothernamethesamegame · 23/07/2023 09:30

I agree others will be thinking the same as you but scared to speak up. Isn’t it ridiculous that so many of us feel unable to question a male invading a females space.

Could you contact whoever runs the group and ask them to specifics if it is a single sex group or not? If so they should be dealing with it.

Mummy08m · 23/07/2023 09:28

Ps I know you haven't actually said that about the so called "transmaidens". That was others on this thread I'm dort of berating I suppose.

Also, I'm not blaming you for not speaking up. Just reminding you that others aren't speaking up for similar reasons

Mummy08m · 23/07/2023 09:26

I've felt like this several times in different equivalent situations but then I do this...

  1. Count the number of supportive commenters. Not the number of comments because it'll be the same few people making multiple supportive responses.
  1. If whichever social media allows, look up the number of people the original TW/TRA post was read by.
  1. Remember that nearly all the remainder are, like you, silently thinking "ew wtf" but not speaking up. Like you.
  1. For goodness' sake, stop saying things like "omg why are all these women transmaidens" or some other misogynistic crap. Because the vast majority are just like you, grossed out but not saying anything.
LonginesPrime · 23/07/2023 08:46

It validates them to feel they are being accepted as women and makes them feel more female specifically because it's a female-only space that they wouldn't be allowed to enter if they were a male.

Therefore, since they have been allowed to enter this space reserved for females, this serves as their evidence that they are female and definitely not male.

They don't care if it's female socialisation and Stonewall grooming that's making women feel they must pretend - all they care about is that it's happening and it feeds their own desire to be treated that way.

They will often refer to their membership of their "women's running group" in other contexts to (1) gain access to further women-only spaces by shaming other gatekeepers into being as inclusive as their running group and (2) convincing other people to perceive them as a woman even though they're obviously not by evidencing that other people (the single-sex women's running group, where biology obviously matters) have managed to overcome their prejudices and view them as female, so you should too, emperor's new clothes-style.

It's like anything in life - getting a job in a new career, being accepted by a new social circle when you move to a new area, etc - once you've got your foot in the door, it opens plenty of other doors for you. You just need someone to show some goodwill and vouch for you in the first place, and then after that, the world is your oyster.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/07/2023 19:40

I think people, both men and transmaidens, deliberately target the groups which say they are women only.

Screamingabdabz · 22/07/2023 18:59

Transmaidens - yes that sums it up. The ‘pick me’ women who will be perfectly normal until a man walks in. Idiots.

Backstreets · 22/07/2023 18:54

I wish all these well meaning women knew they were assisting a fetish.

RealityFan · 22/07/2023 17:33

If women were invading lodge meetings, men only golf days and tournaments, make poker shindigs, the whole phenomenon would have been crushed before it went anywhere.

Women? The transmaidens invite the men in.

PatatiPatatras · 22/07/2023 17:26

It's been going on for so long with the same modus operandi that I wonder if it isn't the same group of men in quite a few of these female only fb groups. Specifically searching for anything created with this intent.