Should threads be moved out of here as well as in?

Based only on the Disney thread, I think it is important that threads can be moved elsewhere. That certainly seemed to be started to sabotage the FWR space.

In general I don't think threads should be moved. Gender ideology is not a stand alone thing, so naturally we do get discussions around tangential issues, or for example court cases that are not directly related but could have an impact, etc.

The exceptions IMO might be threads deliberately started by trolls, or where they were places mistakenly.

Really what it comes down to is that I don't trust either MN, despite their best efforts, to make good decisions on this, and I certainly don't trust the people who think that it's really important to toe the right political lines.

if those in the green circle dare to agree with someone in the red circle on that bit that overlaps then the green circle then certain posters on here will label the green circle bigots and Nazis.

Or trump supporters. When trump did a clip a while back when he decided to run again for President i think I was disgusted at the fact that i was watching trump and finding myself in agreement with some of what he said.

Now whether he believed what he was saying or not is irrelevant and the fact that I tend to disagree with trump on 99.5% of stuff is deemed irrelevant I will forever be labelled an extreme far right bigoted Nazi trumpster by those who take this black and white thinking of right and left to the extremes every time.

This one? Or another one?

Can I add we have two feminism threads - general chat and sex and gender. Sex and gender now probably covers a wider range of topics as it’s impact is being realised - sport, employments, access to single sex spaces, our concerns for our children, safeguarding , abolition of gendered women based word, transitioners and detransitioners etc

in theory I’m not being directly affected - I am old enough to be resilient and don’t mix in circles where gender ideology matters - but I care greatly about what is happening and will do anything I can to stop it or at least slow it down.

So i discovered on a different thread yesterday! Who knew the royal family was so deletion inducing.

I'd like to see more of the threads that aren't about gender issues in "feminist chat"

@Boiledbeetle deletions seem quite mild compared to the royal family threads 😀

Could it be that recent media reports about trans rapists, men in women's sports etc are shedding that light we all want? So women who have previously avoided FWR are now reading and posting here, but aren't fully conversant with the culture on this board?

The thing is a lot of us spend the majority of our time on this board alone. And just as in life if you had some not completely related news too say as evening class you took with a group of good friends you would still talk about other subjects with them. Sometimes there may be things that you think would be of interest to your like-minded fellow posters so it makes sense to stick it on here and not in some other board that no one is going to frequent.

There seems to be an effort on the part of some to turn fwr into a US-style right wing versus left wing forum, like a mini Fox News or something

It's been right wing/far right for several years now, threads and posters have been pointing out for years now but got poo pooed with stuff like "but even Nazis think the sky is blue, so why can't I agree with them on this?!'
It's just more out in the open now and doesn't even seem to be pretending to be about feminism any more.
Hardly a conspiracy worthy "must be being paid for to make us all look bad" 🙄

I'm not sure what that thread was aiming for but it's refusing to stay in the bedroom. It's currently going down the drain At least that's where i left it, in a manhole!

Like you wouldn't believe! Some days you can't move for deleted posts! New posters and odd tangents!

It makes it more entertaining i find!

Spot on. The content, tone and quality of posts is unrecognisable from a year, even 6 months ago. Something's going on.

Who decides what is not appropriate or reflective of this particular sub forum, though?

I also started a thread last week based upon the performance of 'Christine and The Queens' at Glastonbury - as I felt it was totally about sex and gender and had lots of food for thought and discussion.

Some people were just very dismissive, though - and have to say that did tend to be from usernames which i was not very familiar with on this sub forum.

I also was not aware that this board was being monitored so closely

Hands up - I started the great awakening one - under the title re nuclear family. I will confess I was late to the women’s rights and gender discussion and then you wonder “how did I miss that starting “. It’s a bit like the boiled frog analogy - it seems to have got to be (for me) a hot topic with no real warning signs

on the post I do confess that I am concerned I am being led down rabbit holes but my concern was, where did this concerted effort by academics and now institutions and now states to erase women come from. Eg it feels as if the UN - which uses gender more than sex in all its documents - is seeking to minimise women at the expense of trans women.

I put it in this section as I have seen considered debate about women’s rights and the lunacy out there on this board. I’m not new to this board and contribute to some threads.

Agree that it’s no coincidence.

Exhibit B: Master bedroom thread.

Purports to be about sexism, when lo and behold its really about racism.

I'm in France and cannot see a 'great awakening' thread or a 'conspiracy theory' thread.

Are these the titles of the threads?

There will be this effort and we will still be here. And there will be another angle again tried when this one fails.

I agree also.

The Disney thread was not relevant to this board.

The contributers were attracted from all the boards as it was trending. So not reflective of the usual content. I don't think it should be deleted but it's more of an AIBU thread.

I don't think it was a coincidence that the site stuff thread complaining about FWR was started around the same time. I think this board is being watched like no other.