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BringItOnxxx · 21/04/2023 13:31

Look out a fresh faced KJM, Magdalen Berns (RIP), Venice Allan and Miranda Yardley. What a lineup!

BringItOnxxx · 21/04/2023 13:24

C4 did air this excellent documentary in 2018 with Stella O'Malley. It was called Trans Kids, it's time to talk. Here's the section where she goes to a talk and trans activists storm the building 😬

Trans Kids: It's Time to Talk | 5: The Protest

In by far the most talked about segment of "Trans Kids: It's Time to Talk", a peaceful gathering of gender critical feminists and their allies turns nasty wh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuIi6wug0XM

ArabeIIaScott · 21/04/2023 13:12

GenderQuake was indeed a shitshow. Hopefully this one will be better ...

ScrollingLeaves · 21/04/2023 12:54

@BonfireLady · Today 06:14

I found this thread:

Channel 4's Genderquake Debate is heavily criticised/ boycotted(?) by prominent transgender activists & allies
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3243464-Channel-4s-Genderquake-Debate-is-heavily-criticised-boycotted-by-prominent-transgender-activists-allies

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 21/04/2023 12:10

I'll keep my ears/eyes open then, thanks Smile

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 21/04/2023 10:56

Hi all

I can't see any mention of when it's airing, does anyone know?

OldCrone · 21/04/2023 10:22

PriOn1 · 21/04/2023 06:24

”Prior to quitting her role, Stock had called “many trans women still males with male genitalia“, and argued against their inclusion in single-sex spaces”

I’m not sure trying to suggest Kathleen Stock is a terrible bigot based on this statement is going to have quite the effect they’re hoping for.

Also this:

She has also argued that self-ID “threatens a secure understanding of the concept ‘lesbian’”, rooting her rhetoric in a belief of immutable biological sex.

I'm sure most people share her belief that sex is immutable.

BonfireLady · 21/04/2023 07:04

Thanks all. I've been having a read of the comments on it.

Summary thoughts: a) I'll save myself the time and not watch it, or the series that it was part of b) let's hope Channel 4 have learned a lesson from it. On the one hand, they seemed to unite both sides of the debate, but only in agreement that it was a painful shitshow.

Flowerly · 21/04/2023 06:28

Genderquake was absolutely appalling in every way.

GCAcademic · 21/04/2023 06:25

Definitely use Google instead of the MN search function - it throws up several threads for Genderquake.

PriOn1 · 21/04/2023 06:24

”Prior to quitting her role, Stock had called “many trans women still males with male genitalia“, and argued against their inclusion in single-sex spaces”

I’m not sure trying to suggest Kathleen Stock is a terrible bigot based on this statement is going to have quite the effect they’re hoping for.

freefromthatinsanity · 21/04/2023 06:22

BonfireLady · 21/04/2023 06:14

Sounds interesting.

In the article it mentioned a previous series which ended in a live debate back in 2018 called "Genderquake".
I searched that word (both as a single word and split) on this board but it didn't find any matches, which surprised me. That could be a limit of the search facility rather than a lack of thread. I appreciate it's been a while but does anyone recall seeing or being part of one?

If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was a bit of a shit show. My memory is hazy, but as far as I remember, the producers had the TRA in the middle, and the feminists - who thought the had been invited as guests in their own right - were seated around the edge, more as if an audience.

The producers encouraged them to call out, but when they did, they were seen as being disrespectful / heckling - as the viewers didn't know they'd been encouraged to do this.

There was definitely discussion of it here. I hope old threads aren't being deleted.

Have you tried searching with Google, instead of the Mumsnet search?

BonfireLady · 21/04/2023 06:14

Sounds interesting.

In the article it mentioned a previous series which ended in a live debate back in 2018 called "Genderquake".
I searched that word (both as a single word and split) on this board but it didn't find any matches, which surprised me. That could be a limit of the search facility rather than a lack of thread. I appreciate it's been a while but does anyone recall seeing or being part of one?

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