The Lesbian Project

Quite right too. After all, whenever women meet to talk about their rights these days, groups of beskirted and bePampered men say it makes them feel unsafe. Not sure why you were trying to deny them their validity.

Not a Lesbian but interested in the project.

"Little Owen Jones".

@EndlessTea Martina Navratilova is their patron. Kathleen Stock is another founder & Joanna Cherry is an advisor so lots of ladies who really annoy LOJ. As a heterosexual woman in her 50's even I've noticed how little the L has become in recent years in the alphabet soup (despite being the first letter said each time) even before some XY bods started to claim they were lesbians too. I wish this new organisation every success.

www.thelesbianproject.co.uk/people

Yes, Mrs Overton! Nowhere does it mention my habit of clutching pearls!

I like the new name!

You'll have to sue Suzanne Arabella! That comment must constitute literal violence at the very least 😂

Still, merits a wee namechange. 😂

ArabellaScott did you see you were quoted in Suzanne Moore's Substack?

open.substack.com/pub/suzannemoore/p/poor-billy-bragg-not-in-charge-of

This article about the needs of lesbians being ignored/subverted by mainstream progressives and liberal feminists is worth a read and mentions The Lesbian Project:

thecritic.co.uk/metoo-isnt-just-for-straight-women/

‘I am not a lesbian. As a feminist, I know I share interests with women who are not like me. At the same time, there are experiences I will never have, problems I will never face, and social positions I will never occupy. We should all be invested in the feminist fight against objectification and sexual coercion, which in recent years has been termed the #metoo movement. Nonetheless, the way in which this has been playing out for lesbians and for straight women seems to me has been radically different. As a member of the latter group, I increasingly feel that what little gains we make are coming at the expense, not of men, but of other women.’

I know,. It's absolute bollocks isn't it. It's not like there isn't a thread a day about it! Some people just will not acknowledge misogyny, because it's inconvenient.

Women have been targeted for meeting or talking about gender ideology, sex education, women's sport, outdoor swimming pools, language, dating apps, lesbianism, lesbian clubs, dating sites, biological functions like abortion, and yes, stillbirth, also knitting, sewing, women's literature, publishing, music festivals, rape refuges.

And, of course, mumsnet itself, the biggest gathering of women in history, is targeted relentlessly to shut it down. Downnnn. You scary wims.

In fact, any single thing that women say, assert, or even think should exclude a man, is targeted.

Men do not like women talking in private, sharing spaces, tools, support, experiences, tools and resources.

And I don't blame them.

Obvs.

I didn't need a mental image of LOJ coming. 😀

BB is a bellend. (I never use that term, but it just suits him).

I think JB comes across so well in the interview in that thread. I wonder how many detransitioners they are going to find when they do the research.

I just watched the video of JB on GB News in the OP of this thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4763614-julie-bindel-v-billy-bragg she says Martina Navratilova is involved too.

As a straight mum of a teen lesbian, just thank goodness.

Ha!

God BB is a fucking cunt.

Got to love a bit of whatabouttery. Remind sme of when I organised a lunch for the women at work (very much the minority) and some of the men asked what about us. They were then horrified that I suggested they should organise their own lunch and claimed it was bullying and exclusionary by not inviting them ( we wrrent invited to many sports events and pub nights but it doesnt vount apparently). It was quickly sorted and we carried on but really. Go and start your own group.

@Trellist :Damn right, as Julie said in Unherd - it's time to divorce ourselves from our gay brothers.

Absolutely agree. Gay men don't give a hang about Lesbians and the majority are misogynists, it's something straight women are now waking up to.

I left the Rainbow alphabet around 2019; my loyalty is entirely to women and Lesbians.

I genuinely don't think he cares, he just wants another stick to beat Julie with.

It's astonishing behaviour.

He must be a bit dim as well he doesn’t recognise the difference between telling a lie about what someone has said an opinion that someone is a misogynist. He can’t be that stupid that he thinks he’s got a point.

....lost now, is Bragg's point that creepy and inappropriate behaviour is a normal part of being gay? Because no. It's not.