Women's rights general conversations - Thread 3

I forgot the image of ‘another flamboyant man’, Mick Jagger.

Oli is probably a bit disturbed and vulnerable in many ways in that I think he went on for surgery in an endless quest that never brought peace and got the idea of trans into the bargain.

Here is another flamboyant 60s 70s man.
‘Flower Power’ and ‘Make Love not War’ and at the time, even men having long hair. looked gender fluid while certainly celebrating males and females!

Current young people don’t necessarily know anything about the past

I've just been down a small rabbit hole for small rabbits, that is I didn't go very far down the rabbit hole so it must have been quite small.

Anyway! I read the Finnish scientist's stuff on Twitter, then went to the thread here and then somewhere else, oh yes to the thread that all parents should read this where there was a link to a Heil article about a bloke called Oli who's detransitioning. I think Oli's a bit of a tool, to be honest. He's been "living as a woman" for six months after having plastic surgery and now he's blaming Harry Styles and Timothy Chamalette (fuck knows how you spell it but that looks nice though I'm 99% sure it's wrong) for making men like him think that they can be gender fluid and oh I lived as a woman for six months!"

Oli, you got some work done on your face and did some cosplay where you appeared to be on a red carpet doing drag race and that's all grand but if you're going to lay blame somewhere you are blaming the wrong people. What Styles and Timothy represent is that a man can be a man and flamboyant. He can wear pearls, a skirt, wear makeup and blah-di-blah-blah while still shagging a lot of very attractive women (Harry Styles being the famous shagger) and still be a man. They didn't transition because they didn't need to because they both seem to understand that they don't need to pretend to be a woman to be comfortable in their own "fluidity" for want of a better word. If that's all it took for young people to be rushing off for top surgeries, both adding or taking away breasts, then the seventies would have been all about transitioning and subsequent detransitioning because we had the divine David Bowie (RIP), to a lesser extent but still gloriously flamboyant) Freddie Mercury (RIP) and Marc Bowlan (RIP) and a whole lot of glam rock!

I think Oli is an influencer so I guess influencers got to influence. Arsehole.

And Finland needs to have a word with itself.

And nice soft walls for you.

Instead they gave 20 minutes to the ramblings of homophobic Christians on the 21/1 episode. Ffs.

Just caught up with the last two weeks of Any Answers. Really disappointed that they took no callers on the GRA despite it being mentioned at the beginning of both programmes.

Period pains you say? I've just the thing, lie back and I'll give you an injection. Is it working? Good, good! Now, we'll just get your special new jacket on - what? Yes, the sleeves ARE very long, heh! Yes, the buckles are supposed to do up at the back...

Sounds more like a dodgy burrito the day before personally.

Signalbox · Today 20:59
"Finland has erased women today. From this point on, Finnish law no longer recognizes sex in law, only gender identity."

Before that happens here let’s put pressure on Parliament to update the Equality Act to make clear that the protected characteristic ‘sex ‘ is biological sex,
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petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Light blue touchpaper...

twitter.com/troonytoons/status/1620809407671177221/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1620809407671177221&currentTweetUser=troonytoons

"Finland has erased women today. From this point on, Finnish law no longer recognizes sex in law, only gender identity."

Crikey. So I wonder how does that work for those without a gender identity? And what goes on the birth certificate?

Talking of WTF:

https://twitter.com/akkka1/status/1620761224916123649?s=61&t=TKvpB6xagy1mNZOGf-aCKg

There's not much online apart from a Bloomberg article with the headline
"Finland Improves Trans Rights Allowing Gender Self-Declaration"

What
The
Fuck

@IcakethereforeIam I have the perfect thing for you. Sod cake gender I give you

I don't know I'm not into gaming. But my sister in law is not going to be happy she's a Sims fan.

That is just awful. And cynical, of course.

How does the law work with games?
What would the On Line Harms Bill say in relation to this being something played on line?

I think I'm.going to scream

I almost skipped this thread, because the title is a little niche, but the linked Twitter thread is well worth a read - very well articulated points that apply globally: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4732993-310123-interesting-twitter-thread-from-leor-sapir-about-finnish-paediatric-bodys-position

Yes it's completely bizarre isn't it? They must think that the public are stupid. It's pretty clear to everyone that there is a massive flaw in a risk assessment process that concludes it is safe to house a convicted rapist in a women's prison.

Yep, that is the failsafe assessment to keep rapists out of women's prisons.

A risk assessment should go like this:

Is the prisoner male? Y/N

Y - Incarcerate in male prison.

Just dumping this here

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/jan/31/emily-atack-asking-for-it-review-a-truly-sickening-look-at-the-torrent-of-sexual-images-online

We've not heard the last of him. Lawsuit and/or he'll get assaulted, or claim to have been, in prison. He's clearly not shy of seeking compensation.