Women's rights general conversations - Thread 3

Aye, true!

And I wouldn't suggest Metro as a source of historical information!

I dont think it's fair to say that the Chevalier d'Eon has been retrospectively transed S/he (and I genuinely don't know which pronoun to use) appears to have had some physical characteristics of both sexes, which in the medical climate of the time can't have been medically induced. You can tell the story both ways - either a James Barry narrative of a young woman with pronounced masculine characteristics who eventually reverted to living as a woman, or a young man and vice versa.

(SEEN is a new staff network for the civil service and other public bodies.)

I wonder what the gay men who repeatedly scold us for the 'homophobia' of GC views would make of this?

seen-network.uk/posts/2023-01-04-why-is-seen-important-to-me/

The Metro post-transes another historical figure, complete with "they" proning.

metro.co.uk/2023/02/10/distinguished-soldier-and-spy-europes-first-openly-transgender-person-18237209/

Born male in 1728, Charles-Geneviève-Louis-Auguste-André-Timothée d’Éon de Beaumont...

Charlotte earned money through fencing matches in which they regularly beat male opponents.

Some very fragrant lady scientists there. You go girls!

International, FFS.

There’s a ratio developing for poor old Maggie Chapman who has chosen to tweet about Internationally Day of Women and Girls in Science. My favourite response so far:

twitter.com/terfymcterfy/status/1624190018167181316?s=61&t=TYtPVQTBNqZzBsfne7VYPQ

I feel a bit sorry for her because she can't see how awful this is. He is some serious crimes just waiting to happen.

I’m incredibly particular about tradespeople in my flat and will do my best to find a female. This man works for the council so the women he visits don’t even get a choice. My blood ran cold reading it.

This is deeply disturbing

www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/4739930-online-web-cam-only-fans-cheating

Re:Rishi and changing the prison rules - that is a step in the right direction, but according to a Swedish Study men with gender reassignment surgery still had the same male-pattern violence as ordinary men. So not having genitalia, or not having committed a sexual crime would not on its own make a man safe for women.

Mightn’t the court of human rights challenge this discrimination on the grounds of genitalia? I thought that was why it was not made a requirement for a GRC.

If where the prostate is 'is on a spectrum' I pity the surgeons & radiologists, and indeed the patients, who are dealing with prostate cancer.

Where to start? Should the surgeon open the chest cavity in case it's there? Should the radiation be aimed at the neck or one of the feet, just in case that's the location?

If only we had a way of telling.

Death by wanking?

Being in lurve really is a terrible state. So lovely, that day you wake up and know you're cured, and can focus on whether or not you actually like the bloke.

My suggestion for an icebreaker is 'tell us the best or worse icebreaker idea you've come across'. If you do that, then you can finish up with hunt the gonads.

There's a thread about a woman whose husband has racked up quite a big Sky bill on porn and too many people are all about "Oh the porn wouldn't bother me but the money would". I mean, I get it, that's a lot of money to spend. If you're a disgusting person who doesn't care about what the porn industry does to people, the abuse, the trafficking, the everything vile about it, then you can get it for free, but to just not care about porn as though it's something just normal. Enough of that sort of shit. I was definitely less in the mood for reading women being so fine with porn because I listened to the latest Feminist Current podcast today which was about Only Fans in general and because of that about porn. I think a lot of people who are okay with porn haven't really seen much of it lately because the stuff that is getting the views these days is in no way something that anyone should be fine with.

Icebreaker. Instead of "What's something interesting about you, blah, blah" type stuff that just makes people feel tense and dull if other people have exciting things to talk about and the only thing interesting about them is the way they fold their knickers when they're putting them away, go for something along the lines of "Tell us something really boring about yourself/tell us something that makes you happy even though other people might think it's dull." Basically, just let people be dull and take the pressure off them.

Gonners · Today 19:27

In the context of hunt-the-gonads...

Thanks. I've got Hunt The Gonads to the tune of Stop The Pigeon for tonight's earworm.

I have just been asked for suggestions for an icebreaker exercise for a legal team's away day. What could possibly go wrong?

Nothing. Nothing at all. Prize for the most extreme end of the spectrum.

Sorry, that was meant to quote Binturong on prostate location...