Please help! Gender not sex on a school 'protected characteristics' poster, just spoken to the Head!

perhaps if you can’t accept, you can still tolerate rather than condem a small vulnerable minority to a life of intolerance and misery. The data points supporting they are any ‘threat’ to women are tiny.

I don’t believe in god, but I accept those that do.

I thought the Court of Sessions' jurisdiction was Scotland only, so the Haldane judgment applied to Scotland only. Is that incorrect?

I think you need to look at how younger people are increasingly presenting as gender queer.

What you describe is rather out of date.

What you forget is that we were all teenagers once and we all believed in ridiculous ideas. I fell hook line and sinker for Erich von Danikin's theories that aliens had brought civilisation to earth.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Däniken

I also thought anyone who didn't agree with me on anything was rather out of date.

Have you read the Adrian Mole books?

What you describe is rather out of date.

In the sense of "still happening, but we now pretend it isn't"?

I don't think religion is an immutable truth, or many (any?) of your other examples are either. Gravity is an immutable truth. Biological sex is an immutable truth.
There are many ongoing debates about all of the ideologies you have listed, so gender fits in nicely. Happening at the global, theoretical, war-starting scale, all the way down to one person trying to do what they think is right about a poster in their child's primary school.
We all have our beliefs, and we defend them, and we try to enact them. We don't just give up because someone tells us to 'calm down' :-)

Are you a bored teenager off school and with nothing better to do? Because we're used to a much better standard of argument than this.

Yes, feminism, capitalism, religion etc are ideas. No one disputes that. So is gender ideology. Just an idea that some people have latched on to.

Biology is actuality, not an idea. Name a man who has given birth. Or a male dog, horse or monkey that has given birth, for that matter.

Now I really must get that dog walked.

If they believe they do then let’s accept that.

They and you can believe and accept whatever you like. Many people don't "accept" that their identity claims trump objective biological reality. If we did you wouldn't be on this thread.

I think you need to look at how younger people are increasingly presenting as gender queer.

What you describe is rather out of date.

Loads is things that we regard as immutable truths are the product of ideology, yet we accommodate them. Feminism, capitalism, religions, all political systems, justice etc are all the product of ‘ideology’

Yes, both feminism and trans activism are products of ideology. However, sex is biological reality, and innate gender identity is an unfalsifiable belief.

It doesn’t really matter. Meaning is culturally constructed. If they believe they do then let’s accept that. Would you rather they live in misery? Transgender people are a very small proportion of the population. A little charity and tolerance goes a long way.

How would there be no transgender people if there were no stereotypes?

How would we know that people had transitioned unless there were stereotypes? Why does Alex Drummond put on a skirt and tights and wear women's jewellery when he could just continue in his trousers and beard as a trans woman.

Why are there thousands of older male transitioners photographing themselves in women's underwear if there are no stereotypes?

I could go on and on and on but I have to pull on my manly overtrousers and cagoule and beanie hat and go and walk the dog.

Loads is things that we regard as immutable truths are the product of ideology, yet we accommodate them. Feminism, capitalism, religions, all political systems, justice etc are all the product of ‘ideology’

How sheltered must someone be to think that 'stereotypes' only relates to appearances!

It's odd.

i think you are confusing the inner self with presentation.

No, I don't think so. What makes feelings "male" or "female" and how would one "know" their feelings were more like the feelings of the opposite sex?

How sheltered must someone be to think that 'stereotypes' only relates to appearances!

OP I'd definitely make sure your children are educated about this. Believing 'only girls have THIS type of inner self, and only boys have THAT one' is the sort of thing most children do grow out of, but clearly not all.

What is a teenager friendly way of explaining why calling women that, is unacceptable?

You could ask them to break down what it means - whether any person is being excluded for anything due to being trans, or whether this would be a really bad way of determining if someone should or shouldn't be excluded in anything because no-one can say clearly what 'trans' is.

I tell my kids that you just look stupid if you call someone something inaccurate. Like calling a Labour voter 'a Tory'. Break down what it is you are actually claiming and assess whether that is true or not.

i think you are confusing the inner self with presentation.

Well done to the posters challenging their schools

If there were no stereotypes of how men and women "feel", how would anyone perceive their own feelings as different to members of their own sex?

My son’s primary also used gender instead of sex. I calmly explained to the Head it was wrong, sent evidence, and it was changed.
small win but felt good

Just wondering if anyone else was in the same boat and had received any sort of training they felt was dubious. In the public sector it's all been pretty good ime, but the dodgy one was in the private sector (not gender related).

In the 19th century “biological reality” (as is was understood then) was used to justify scientific racism and not awarding women the vote.

”reality” changes.

How would there be no transgender people if there were no stereotypes?

What is being "transgender" based on if not stereotypes?