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Kucingsparkles · 06/12/2022 15:14

This is an experimental thread, all input much appreciated!

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions, grr"- that sort of thing).

Right, bring on the flames or flowers! <cowers>

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Kucingsparkles · 20/12/2022 21:03

Meanwhile, developments in Scotland tonight have me despairing, and more convinced than ever of the closed extremist ritualistic faith-based pseudoreligious nature of genderist ideology.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4701883-scottish-parliament-final-debate-on-gender-recognition-reform-today?

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Kucingsparkles · 20/12/2022 20:57

Winterborne74 · 20/12/2022 19:41

Didn’t hear the LBC call, but it’s the unashamed desire to degrade and publicly humiliate Markle that make Clarkson’s comments so horrifying. You really can’t imagine something like that being written about any man (except possibly convicted child murderers or similar). It’s utterly deranged.

Exactly. Just awful.

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MissLawls · 20/12/2022 19:51

@IReallyLikeCrows the nearby villages are lovely. Glad you liked it. It's very wild in places. Not pretty countryside but very dramatic and I love that.

I also heard the LBC interview with Caroline Flack's mum. Heartbreaking. When certain elements of the press take against a woman - and it nearly always is a woman - they really do show no mercy.

angelico53 · 20/12/2022 19:50

That is so absolutely true, Winters.

Winterborne74 · 20/12/2022 19:41

Didn’t hear the LBC call, but it’s the unashamed desire to degrade and publicly humiliate Markle that make Clarkson’s comments so horrifying. You really can’t imagine something like that being written about any man (except possibly convicted child murderers or similar). It’s utterly deranged.

IReallyLikeCrows · 20/12/2022 19:04

@MissLawls we were staying in a village nearby. It was all a bit lovely.

I listened to Caroline Flack's mother on LBC phoning to talk about Clarkson and his vile article and the similarities between the treatment of the Duchess of Sussex and her daughter. It was pretty heartbreaking.

WarOnWoman · 20/12/2022 16:56

Popping up to say I'm thinking about starting my annual thread but feel discouraged with all the shit recently around here. @ErrolTheDragon you don't fancy it do you?

SinnerBoy · 20/12/2022 16:45

Gladdened to have raised a smile. I think that's what I'll call my daughter's bedroom...

Tricyrtis2022 · 20/12/2022 16:38

The Pique District?

That made me laugh!

My family come from The Lakes. Lovely place.

SinnerBoy · 20/12/2022 16:29

I had thought that Snowdonia had been the first NP. I consider myself now educated.

Winterborne74 · 20/12/2022 16:19

I haven’t been to that district for years, but my Dad was from Burton on Trent so lots of outings to Dovedale/Thorpe Cloud, Matlock and the Heights of Abraham when we stayed with my grandparents as children. Would like to go back as an adult.

TenzingNorgay · 20/12/2022 16:14

I have a fondness for Matlock Bath.

MissLawls · 20/12/2022 16:13

The Pique District?

Heh. The very same @SinnerBoy

I went to that district last year and fell in love with it. One of my small joys was that the tap water was Buxton spring water. It was just the best tap water ever and I couldn't stop drinking it!

Lovely to hear that @IReallyLikeCrows I adore Buxton. It's just up the road from us.

SinnerBoy · 20/12/2022 12:41

The Pique District?

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 20/12/2022 12:15

That Tweet seems to have gone AWOL for some reason, Kuc, but I did see it before and was highly entertained (in the 'I despair of humanity' sense).

IReallyLikeCrows · 20/12/2022 12:03

I went to that district last year and fell in love with it. One of my small joys was that the tap water was Buxton spring water. It was just the best tap water ever and I couldn't stop drinking it!

MissLawls · 20/12/2022 11:34

Hmmmm... so I can't actually say which District I live in close to the first ever national park set up in the UK!? In 1951? You'll just have to guess!

IcakethereforeIam · 20/12/2022 10:14

Is 'stnning & brve' still banned?

ExiledElsie · 20/12/2022 09:58

I think it was that the word was combined with trans which can then be seen as a dismissive shorthand towards a group of people.

Basically anything is banned on this bit of the site that starts to be used as a trope that could be seen as othering a group.

It forces us to use polite clear language for all our arguments which is ultimately a good thing as we tease out all the nuances of our arguments.

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Kucingsparkles · 20/12/2022 09:58

@BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn have you seen this amazing biological news?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4696294-groundbreaking-news-hold-onto-your-hsts?

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ErrolTheDragon · 20/12/2022 09:47

Yes - it used to be very common, then rather abruptly started incurring unexpected deletions. There were mystified threads at the time, I've forgotten exactly what the rationale was. Maybe to do with making people on the other side of the 'debate' feel unwelcome.

SqueakyDinosaur · 20/12/2022 09:44

I'm intrigued by p**k being taboo. Surely it's just useful shorthand for "this is the thing that I saw/read/experienced that made me really question myself about this issue, and has resulted in my view/belief actually changing" ?

ErrolTheDragon · 20/12/2022 09:04

I'm not 100% sure about Sherpa alone tbh - it's 'peak' which is apparently upsetting to sensitive folk (it used to be used a lot, often by former lurkers describing what had enlightened them) and there may have been instances of someone inadvertently making the GC case being referred to them as a Sherpa. As you say, someone who has got you to the top of a hill.

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Kucingsparkles · 20/12/2022 07:15

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 20/12/2022 07:12

I understand that bit, I'm utterly baffled by Sherpa being even a possible problem. Does it have a meaning I'm unaware of?

I wasn't aware of that being a problem! Perhaps in the sense of a companion assisting one in climbing the mountain??

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BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 20/12/2022 07:12

I understand that bit, I'm utterly baffled by Sherpa being even a possible problem. Does it have a meaning I'm unaware of?

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