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Kucingsparkles · 06/12/2022 15:14

This is an experimental thread, all input much appreciated!

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions, grr"- that sort of thing).

Right, bring on the flames or flowers! <cowers>

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Kucingsparkles · 22/12/2022 15:22

This quote (possibly from Keynes) just randomly popped into my head and I thought I'd put it here, in the context of the Bundle Of Good Beliefs That Must Never Be Questioned thing: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

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Kucingsparkles · 22/12/2022 08:51

The 6-million [insert currency of choice] question:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4702996-what-does-living-as-a-woman-actually-mean

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Winterborne74 · 22/12/2022 08:25

Nothing useful to add on the officious prick front @CyanCyan except moral support. Hope you manage to get him to back off with as little grief/stress as possible.

Punchy from Joan Smith: unherd.com/thepost/scotlands-gender-reform-is-a-vote-against-reality/

Ginmonkeyagain · 22/12/2022 07:08

@mach2 it is certainly very inadvisable and energy companies will take a very dim view. Also it will be most likely be against his lease to use communal areas for personal storage.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/12/2022 06:36

Posie Parker is back on Twitter, which should annoy plenty of the right(eous) people.

Excellent!

mach2 · 22/12/2022 06:28

I was thinking that it must be some sort of offence to block meter access. The man sounds like some ghastly mini-hitler.

Ginmonkeyagain · 22/12/2022 04:01

I am chair of our management committee (although we are share of freehold not RTM) and the way to deal with officious pricks like that is to get even more officious on their arse.

Write to the committee copying in the freeholder expressing genuine concerns about fire safety in the communal meter cupboards.

Ginmonkeyagain · 22/12/2022 03:50

@CyanCyan Time to get serious re you electricity meter issue. Report him to your freeholder and/ or the energy supplier. Packing a meter cupboard full of items is a fire risk, they are not to be used as storage.

SinnerBoy · 22/12/2022 00:34

Tricyrtis2022,

The comments are disheartening. Seem like the lads don't like their 'fun' being stopped.

I wonder how they'd feel if five blokes kicked their head in outside the pub.
I mean, it's just a lads' night out, right?

bignosebignose · 21/12/2022 22:22

Posie Parker is back on Twitter, which should annoy plenty of the right(eous) people.

duc748 · 21/12/2022 21:49

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/12/2022 21:08

It's a sign of how closely women's conversations are policed on here by external monitors. I'm always amused at how often leading mens rights activists weigh in on how transphobic this board is - they evidently follow it obsessively and often post with mixed results 😂

Yeah, I've been following the No Evidence to Suggest Abuse of Self-Id thread! 😀

Winterborne74 · 21/12/2022 21:17

It's a sign of how closely women's conversations are policed on here by external monitors.

Familar.

they evidently follow it obsessively and often post with mixed results 😂

Ditto.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/12/2022 21:08

It's a sign of how closely women's conversations are policed on here by external monitors. I'm always amused at how often leading mens rights activists weigh in on how transphobic this board is - they evidently follow it obsessively and often post with mixed results 😂

Gonners · 21/12/2022 21:02

I'm impressed that MNHQ reacted so quickly in reversing that move. There are good questions being asked by people who haven't been following the story and wouldn't otherwise be aware of it.

duc748 · 21/12/2022 20:30

I read a post from MNHQ saying sorry, and they'd moved it back. It certainly (and unsurprisingly) caused consternation.

CyanCyan · 21/12/2022 19:43

They’ve moved it back to AIBU.

CyanCyan · 21/12/2022 19:41

I saw that in AIBU 10 mins ago. Ffs.

StephanieSuperpowers · 21/12/2022 19:38

Righteousness never rests.

Kucingsparkles · 21/12/2022 19:34

The topic escaped out into AIBU, caused horror and outrage amongst the wider MN audience, and was swiftly disappeared into FWR - the Righteous monitors are on a hair trigger.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4702866-to-be-depressed-and-angry-that-sex-offenders-will-be-able-to-change-gender

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CyanCyan · 21/12/2022 19:24

duc748 · 21/12/2022 19:04

That's really rubbish, CyanCyan. Can't your neighbours offer a bit more support?

We’re going to get some legal advice in the new year but I’m doubtful we’ll be able to do anything to revoke RTM. I never thought it was a good idea with 80+ flats in the building but only half a dozen of us objected. Maybe it’s time to get the patio repaved.

Kucingsparkles · 21/12/2022 19:21

That sounds terrible @CyanCyan, what an absolute arse.

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duc748 · 21/12/2022 19:04

That's really rubbish, CyanCyan. Can't your neighbours offer a bit more support?

CyanCyan · 21/12/2022 18:18

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NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/12/2022 17:45

IReallyLikeCrows · 21/12/2022 16:38

There was a trans activist on Radio 4 last night. She was very amenable, no frothing and rage but I wish she'd been pulled up on one thing. She said that all this Scot's thing amounted to was being allowed to change your gender on your birth certificate. All the other complexities aside I wanted the interviewer to say, "It's sex on the birth certificate not gender."

And this is one of the ramifications of that.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4702755-article-scottish-grcs-and-the-consequences-for-public-protection-in-england-and-wales

ErrolTheDragon · 21/12/2022 17:10

I wish...

xkcd.com/1763