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Janice Turner Interview with Karen Ingala Smith

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Igneococcus · 26/11/2022 13:14

I don't think this has been shared yet. In the Magazine section of today's Times, no comments allowed:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2c54ac5c-6a72-11ed-ba50-5355b767de45?shareToken=577ab2edf5db1459cf186672380c707f

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Igmum · 28/11/2022 15:31

Thank you OP. She's a wonderful woman

ThePoshUns · 27/11/2022 22:15

Great article but sadly predictable that they had to turn comments off to avoid the inevitable pile on form the TWAW lobby.

EwwSprouts · 27/11/2022 22:00

Hope today's sociology 6th formers pick it up.

catandcoffee · 27/11/2022 21:56

What a very informative interview.

Whereareyourshoes · 27/11/2022 21:44

Great article. Karen Ingala Smith is an incredible woman.

Intheora · 27/11/2022 21:30

I actually old skool walked to the shop & bought the paper yesterday just to read this. Good to see.

turbonerd · 27/11/2022 20:57

Thank you for posting. An excellent article. Karen Ingala Smith is doing such an important thing, and does not mince her words. Much respect.

thelionthewitchtheaudacityofTHISbitch · 27/11/2022 17:44

Thank you for posting and the share token.

TheBiologyStupid · 26/11/2022 23:10

eurochick · 26/11/2022 22:39

What a great article.

There were many standout points, but saying this out loud and repeatedly is important,
"She wonders why Stonewall doesn’t devote its resources to setting up specialist services rather than campaigning against those created by and for women"

Absolutely, eurochick!

eurochick · 26/11/2022 22:39

What a great article.

There were many standout points, but saying this out loud and repeatedly is important,
"She wonders why Stonewall doesn’t devote its resources to setting up specialist services rather than campaigning against those created by and for women"

PermanentTemporary · 26/11/2022 21:55

That was an absolute foghorn blast of an article.

@MrsOvertonsWindow yes - and the complaint was deliberately made to boast about the person involved accessing the Sh! website because it is run by women. I don't think they anticipated that accessing porn in public is universally seen as an offensive and very culturally male act even if the website banner is pink.

Kucinghitam · 26/11/2022 21:43

What an incredibly moving, powerful article. I can only wish that as many people as possible read it.

DisforDarkChocolate · 26/11/2022 21:33

What a woman. I followed the tweets yesterday, it's sobering to see so many wonderful women lost to this world at the hands of men.

zaramysaviour · 26/11/2022 21:32

Absolute hero. Thank you, KIS, for your work and your courage. And yes, defending female single-sex spaces is the hill I will die on too.

I've worked and campaigned in the VAWG sector for decades, and had never heard/realised that about burglaries. Shocking. (But not surprising.)

WearyLady · 26/11/2022 21:23

I'm puzzled by KIS's relationship with Jess Phillip's and how the latter can tow the Labour Party line of transwomen being women.

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2022 20:24

VestofAbsurdity · 26/11/2022 19:20

and shockingly the Labour Party refused KIS membership.

Yes. Rather telling.

RoyalCorgi · 26/11/2022 19:43

MenaiMna · 26/11/2022 16:01

Such a good article and inspirational woman.
If you ever can't get a share token I just want to tell you about 12 foot ladder : type in
12ft.io it's a website where you then copy/paste the article url to get over a pay wall, doesn't always work but always worth a try (I use it on telegraph and Times because I refuse to subscribe)

I've never been able to get 12 foot ladder to work on the Times - it works on the Tel, though.

VestofAbsurdity · 26/11/2022 19:20

and shockingly the Labour Party refused KIS membership.

AuntMunca · 26/11/2022 18:17

pattihews · 26/11/2022 18:01

Admiring you name, @AuntMunca What a woman of mystery you were!

Thank you, pattihews. I assume you mean Ferdinand Mount's aunt, rather than Beatrix Potter's mouse. I found the search / disentangling of who she really was quite gripping!

pattihews · 26/11/2022 18:01

Admiring you name, @AuntMunca What a woman of mystery you were!

AuntMunca · 26/11/2022 17:05

Karen was interviewed by Aasmah Mir on Times Radio on Thursday morning. Karen came over very well and I was pleased that Times Radio was covering the publication of her book because it hasn't had a particularly good record of covering challenges to gender ideology. The interview is 3 hours 40 minutes into the programme:

www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/show/20221124-11648/2022-11-24

MenaiMna · 26/11/2022 16:01

Such a good article and inspirational woman.
If you ever can't get a share token I just want to tell you about 12 foot ladder : type in
12ft.io it's a website where you then copy/paste the article url to get over a pay wall, doesn't always work but always worth a try (I use it on telegraph and Times because I refuse to subscribe)

Boiledbeetle · 26/11/2022 15:21

I'm going to be honest I was in tears reading that.

Hats off to her and the amazing things she does

I'm off to find some softer tissues and a cat to snuggle.

EndlessTea · 26/11/2022 15:19

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/11/2022 15:11

Was that the one who complained online about being unable to access porn via the rail company's wi fi on their journey to the meeting? 🙄

That was indeed. I still can’t believe that this fucked up, male entitled, sexualised larping is tolerated.