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Stoicism for women

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ArabellaScott · 10/10/2022 23:19

There can be a bit of macho posturing among some Stoic groups, but on the whole I find people who practise Stoicism generally calm, thoughtful and amenable to reasoned discussion. Especially the women.

I thought a thread of resources might be of interest (I know little, so would be delighted if anyone with more knowledge would like to add their perspective):

www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/19/inject-that-stoicism-into-my-veins-10-tools-of-ancient-philosophy-that-improved-my-life

astoicremedy.com/2018/01/29/why-women-should-explore-stoicism/

dailystoic.com/stoic-women/

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mightymalties · 13/10/2022 20:04

Thank you for raising the subject, and providing some excellent suggestions of what to read!

For those with an active Audible subscription, have a look at "Think like a Stoic: Ancient Wisdom for Today’s World"

It's free in addition to your regular credits. I believe a reading of Aurelius' Meditations is available in the Plus catalogue too.

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ArabellaScott · 12/10/2022 22:13

Here is Epictetus' Handbook on archive.org:

archive.org/details/epictetus-the-enchiridion

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AlienatedChildGrown · 12/10/2022 21:40

Thanks for link. Turns out the OP came through the same door that I did to stoicism, the Fabulous app. (I also have five invitations for a free month if anybody wants one, hoping to give them away so it stops reminding me I have them 😅)

I’m off to subscribe to the Daily Stoic and look into the Happy book in case there’s an audio version.

Fairislefandango · 12/10/2022 21:10

Here is the Stoic thread.

I know Epictetus is kind of the main guy, but it's always Marcus Aurelius' way of putting things that appeals most to me. I have the Daily Stoic, which has a Stoic quote for every day of the year.

Gubu · 12/10/2022 21:09

www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4581490-are-there-any-stoics-here

Here's the link to the other thread. I'm watching it rather than contributing. I started listening to the daily stoic podcast when walking the dog, partly just to make myself actually focus on something and properly listen. They are only a few mins long (3-5 mins mostly) so I have to pay attention. Then I got distracted by another podcast and need to get back to the stoics!

AlienatedChildGrown · 12/10/2022 20:52

I don’t practice Stoicism, but I aspire to being more stoic. It has helped at lot in terms of creating a better emotional balance (hand in hand with pharmaceuticals).

DH introduced me to Marcus Aurelius and his meditations in Italian. I use a recording in English because otherwise my brain starts wondering about how irritating Italian articulated prepositions are, which is not very stoic. It my way of cheating at meditation, I suck at it. My brain never shuts up. But if I stick on headphones and listen at this slow speed I can at least focus on the sound outside of brain and try to not overthink breathing.

There others with different narrators, but I like the tone of this guy’s voice.

Anybody got a link to the MN Stoic thread ? I can’t face the maze of the talk topics list.

WarriorN · 12/10/2022 20:39

Teaches Resilience ?

WarriorN · 12/10/2022 20:39

There's some overlaps with mindset actually, which if used correctly can be v helpful for children- eg see obstacles as opportunities, seeing mistake making as how we learn

WarriorN · 12/10/2022 20:36

Thanks Arabella and queen. I used some ideas today to get perspective

NonnyMouse1337 · 12/10/2022 09:54

This is really interesting. Thanks for sharing, Arabella.
Going to lurk on this thread for more info.

DrEllie · 11/10/2022 18:54

Thanks for this thread. I'm very interested in stoicism.Einzelgänger on YouTube has some good stoic content

QueenHippolyta · 11/10/2022 18:33

@WarriorN and this . It's an excellent idea
medium.com/stoicism-philosophy-as-a-way-of-life/stoicism-for-children-7ce300bb7b7f

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ArabellaScott · 11/10/2022 17:34

I found this, Warrior?

dailystoic.com/teach-children-stoicism/

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WarriorN · 11/10/2022 17:28

Are there any book versions for children? I think it would help both ds's

that also may help me as fried brain is struggling with philosophical stuff

QueenHippolyta · 11/10/2022 16:34

I had a few friends who practiced Stoicism when COVID started. They did what they could; vaccines and face masks and then when stuck at home, carried on with their lives. No drama no meltdowns...They really impressed me by their behavior.

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ArabellaScott · 11/10/2022 15:57

Add me to the Oliver Burkeman fan club.

medium.com/stoicism-philosophy-as-a-way-of-life/how-to-actually-practice-stoicism-993721d3ed9

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Incrediblebuttrue · 11/10/2022 15:09

I only really started getting interested in stoicism a couple of years ago and I am finding it fascinating. Thanks for the links.

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 15:07

I only came across it recently and I think it's totally what I need.

Ooh love Oliver and his terfy ways!

ValancyRedfern · 11/10/2022 14:39

Ooh looks interesting. I love the Oliver Burkeman book The Antidote which has a great chapter on Stoicism. (He also gets bonus points for being actively Terfy on twitter)

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ArabellaScott · 11/10/2022 14:32

Oh, great, thanks Hippolyta, I shall check it out.

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QueenHippolyta · 11/10/2022 10:12

There is a nice Stoic thread in the MN philosophy/religion section; the women there are great
I like it as stoicism builds resilience; you understand that you should act on things you have control over and accept there are things you have no control over and not obsess over it.

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ArabellaScott · 11/10/2022 08:46

Both, Mangy! There's quite a large Stoic movement, conferences etc. Some people involved are very scholarly, some use principles at a simple self help level.

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GrimDamnFanjo · 11/10/2022 00:24

I've been thinking more and more about stoicism. I've go5 a couple of books. I think there's also a mn thread.

MangyInseam · 10/10/2022 23:31

I didn't realize there were modern Stoic groups, that's quite interesting! Do they see it mainly as a kind of practical self-help tool, or as a whole philosophy with a metaphysics and all that?