PayPal shuts Free Speech Union account

I thought Elon Musk originally founded Paypal?

That story with P.T vs Gawker is deeply concerning. One person has enough money to shut down an entire platform of free speech because he doesn't like what they said, albeit indirectly.

But we've already seen something like this happening with mainstream journalism. They have wealthy sponsors and they will not report on subjects that upset those sponsors. You can see with some of them that they compromise by not allowing comments or removing comments after a certain time.

It also stands to reason that if their sponsors can prevent certain topics being reported on, they can tell them what subjects to include and report on. Distrust of the msm is at an all time high quite rightly.

Cashless will bring that compromise into your daily life.

I'm currently in Croatia, where cash is still the favoured way to pay. It us changing though. You can pay contactless in many places now, although a lot of places also stipulate cash only.

Just reading the FSU newsletter. It is really very worrying indeed.

I've always not been in favour of going cashless for exactly this reason.

Isn’t the guy who founded PayPal Peter Thiel? He’s the one who financed Hulk Hogan’s lawsuit against Gawker, which bankrupted the site. He did this because Gawker outed him as gay years previously.

www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/02/hogan-thiel-gawker-trial/554132/

But how would you resist it?

I always objected to the Oyster Card Scheme. Refused to use one for years. And when it was initially introduced, there was a weak, diluted attempt by various human rights charities to grab peoples attention to the fact that by choosing to use a top-up card to travel, once enough people had taken it up, it would be used as justification to phase out cash use when travelling and your privacy would be compromised (it records every journey) and it would eventually be no longer a choice but mandatory to use it. Nevertheless people jumped onboard with using them. Now every journey whether you use an Oyster or your bank card or online Gpay is recordable.

I'm afraid people will simply 'slip' into a cashless society, in exactly the same way they have with cashless travel. And every transaction you then make will be recordable. People you're 'allied' with be open to scrutiny. I think it's inevitable.

They're just waiting for the volume of cashless transactions to get past a certain critical point and then cash will be phased out. Then you'll really be screwed when your opinions aren't liked by whatever payment provider or vendor you're with. And Bitcoin is as transparent as fuck and withdraws payment options to businesses when they are deemed 'unfavourable' or lent on.

And thanks to the democracy that is Canada, we all now know that crowd funding sites will share our info in a heartbeat and the banks will positively leap to give the government all our transaction details over anything it says is a threat, even if there isn't one.

Plurality of options in a market that is dominated by just a few big players is what's needed.

Thanks for this comment. I've not been vaccinated but I'm not antivaxx. I just wanted to wait a little while when they were first offered as I have an anti immune condition and wondered if it might be relevant. But quickly the talk turned to mandates and discriminating against the unvaxxed and I decided on principle that they could fuck off. I think it's absolutely right that if they had calmly discussed the pros and cons, I would have taken it, even with some trepidation. I find it amazing that people have put such trust in big pharma.

I don't think it's true that doctors and nurses would have refused to give the jabs though. Most people do what they're told. The doctors and nurses who spoke against it have been utterly monstered, and it looks like any information that calls the global narrative into question, even in a minor way, is being viciously stamped out.

I guess the next step is to connect vaccine status to your bank account. Then they can make sure we're all "healthy" - or else.

I think it might be a bit late for that. So many shops now don't take cash payments anymore.

This is another reason why we must all resist any more towards a cashless society.

Thanks I'll do that.

I would contact them. I had stopped all my regular Paypal payments a few months earlier as I decided it was easier to have them all in 1 place but if changing a payment method the payer should inform the service provider so you don't lose any of the service

Sorry to interrupt. Operational question: will Netflix contact me or do I have to contact them about a change of payment method?

I'm a GP and I find the treatment of the Covid vaccine odd.
All vaccines have side effects, all vaccines kill a small number of people usually by anaphylaxis. The Covid vaccines may cause myocarditis.
Most vaccines including Covid are more beneficial to the population than not vaccinating. If they weren't governments would spend the money on something else and doctors and nurses would refuse to give them.
I think that all governments behaved very weirdly in not discussing the pros and cons of Covid vaccination with the public like adults but pretending it was a miracle vaccine with 100% efficacy and no side effects.
I had all my vaccines but can understand why some young fit people particularly those who'd had Covid chose not to bother.
This is different to nutters who think Bill Gates for some reason spent a fortune microchipping the vaccines but Toby Young is not a conspiracy nut.
Many people in to homeopathy refuse all vaccines. That's their choice, I think they are wrong and homeopathy is pseudoscience but they should not be refused financial services because of their beliefs which are not against the law
Lots of people believe weird things hence the large ( but shrinking) number of religions.
Paypal are very very wrong here.

Matt Letissier has also deleted his paypal account.

When I see people who have this board hidden I do wonder at what point this will hit them and they work out what it is we have been banging on about for the last 6 years.

And then they will say that nobody told them it was this bad.

It's this bad. It has been for a fair old while.

I knew it would be grim, but bloody hell! WTActualF!

That article says he has his accounts closed due to COVID free anti vaccine speech. He himself says he has no idea why. So how do the Times know why?

My assumption is that, goaded by US based trans-activists, PayPal made an error. Rather than apologise and correct that error and risk unleashing the Kraken, they have engaged an expensive PR firm to brief the Times. Despite what the Times says it is perfectly OK to question the Government's vaccine strategy. As we know every single expert seemed to have a different view, and if Toby's view is towards the nutty end, so be it. Indeed I seem to remember recently Kate Bingham, the first vaccine procurement head, questioning the current strategy and its reliance on mRNA vaccines.

I'm afraid to ask what 'tucking underwear' is, I suspect the answer will be grim.

I assume it's something like this:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4536459-genital-flattening-underwear-for-four-year-old-boys

I'm afraid to ask what 'tucking underwear' is, I suspect the answer will be grim.

Penny Mordaunt deflected the question really well.

In this video, it is explained that Patreon, Shoppify and Etsy have banned Conservative and GC people, but are allowing the sale of CSA material, child "sex dolls" and "tucking" underwear for toddlers.

Danny Kruger MP brought up this case in the House of Commons this morning:

He shouldn't have had his account closed down for anti-vaccine speech.

There are many people who are covid vaccine skeptical and I watched in dismay as the narrative turned anyone who didn't jump onboard with it into the enemy. 'antivaxxer' 'covidiots' pretty disgusting. People lapped it up though.

'Disinformation' is whatever the hell big tech platforms and their affiliated big corporations/investors/poltical think tank/backers say and decide it is. That is the huge obvious downside of the so-called Internet 'Safety' Bill. Whose safety will it be protecting?

It's going to get worse. Everyone is ok when the target seems unpalatable.

But they'll come for the apparently sensible next.

That article says he has his accounts closed due to COVID free anti vaccine speech. He himself says he has no idea why. So how do the Times know why?