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Edward Mordaunt avoids jail after attempting to groom a 14 year old girl

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badbaduncle · 13/09/2022 09:31

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11204029/Tory-MP-Penny-Mordaunts-brother-avoids-jail-admitting-sending-sex-images-decoy-schoolgirl.html

I posted this last night and do not understand why it was deleted.
I post again without comment.

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badbaduncle · 13/09/2022 16:46

inkjet · 13/09/2022 13:17

As someone said on Twitter, obviously she is not responsible for his crimes but when you are campaigning to remove safeguarding for women and children it is relevant for people to know this about your immediate circle.

I couldn't find anything on twitter - could you link for me? thank you

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FlorettaB · 13/09/2022 13:34

12 and 14. Jesus. It’s so depressing. For every one caught by police ‘decoys’ or vigilante groups, how many end up abusing young girls?

I think we need to look at the law around consent and age in particular. There is a big difference between a 14 and a 16 year old having sex with each other and a man in his 20s or 30s having sex with a girl under the age of 16. The penalties for the latter need to be raised.

inkjet · 13/09/2022 13:17

As someone said on Twitter, obviously she is not responsible for his crimes but when you are campaigning to remove safeguarding for women and children it is relevant for people to know this about your immediate circle.

KittenKong · 13/09/2022 12:33

As my father used to say ‘what a bloody family’ (usually about us!)

Clymene · 13/09/2022 12:27

Good character = has a well paid professional job and hasn't been caught before.

MangyInseam · 13/09/2022 12:25

I think that showing good character overall can sometimes impact cases, and so lawyers just use it inevitably if they can to try and make the client look more plausible. It's up to the judge and jury whether they buy it in the particular instance.

Supersimkin2 · 13/09/2022 12:15

The details of this one ain’t pretty. One child was 12.

Suspended sentence cos he called off the rape of another kid at the last minute.

Exemplary.

MoltenLasagne · 13/09/2022 12:01

Is "exemplary character" just lawyer speak for from a wealthy enough family to buy his way out of trouble? It's amazing how many would be rapists and paedophiles are apparently upstanding members of the community according to their defense lawyers otherwise.

Beowulfa · 13/09/2022 11:31

I'm a heterosexual female and just don't understand the concept of dick pics (handily I don't have a smart phone so no chance of receiving one). Are there many women who find them erotic? Might have thought the guy was a bit dull, but now they've seen a particular type of scrotal wrinkling and veinage are now much more interested?

6 months suspended for sending one to a teenager is risible.

badbaduncle · 13/09/2022 10:55

I never understand the 'good character' nonsense. This man tried to groom a child and meet her to rape her. This is clear evidence of his extremely predatory and dangerous character. People don't groom and arrange to assault a child on a whim, it is not an opportunistic crime. It is a crime of planning and of many many layers of deceit. He is a dangerous, predatory man, that is obvious to any fool.

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FourTeaFallOut · 13/09/2022 10:00

No, don't worry, apparently he is ..."of exemplary character, " so says his defense lawyer. An example to whom remains vague, prison dodging nonces, maybe?

marshmallowhearts · 13/09/2022 09:50

He should be in jail. What a joke. Can the public complain about his sentence?

KatVonlabonk · 13/09/2022 09:44

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2022 09:38

I wasn't correcting you, just clarifying for others.

No worries, I was thinking I'd heard her twin was gay, and thought that bit didn't add up.

badbaduncle · 13/09/2022 09:44

I did post this last night and it was deleted. I have no idea why and think this is important tbh.
It is important to look at how these ministers come to views/opinions and the 'pressure groups' and how close they are to ministers

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Clymene · 13/09/2022 09:42

Penny and James are twins.

user80808 · 13/09/2022 09:42

bellinisurge · 13/09/2022 09:38

She's not responsible for her paedophile brother. She is, however, responsible for standing at the Despatch Box and stating Transwomen are Women and Transmen are Men as if it is settled government policy. Contrary to the Equality Act.

Exactly.
It makes you wonder about discussions about males having access women's safe spaces over Sunday lunch doesn't it?

bellinisurge · 13/09/2022 09:42

@Clymene , exactly.

badbaduncle · 13/09/2022 09:41

www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/02/20/penny-james-mordaunt-conservative-party-lgbt-rights/
James Mordaunt is a TRA/MRA and they are very close. I have never heard of Edward until this new item.

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Clymene · 13/09/2022 09:40

bellinisurge · 13/09/2022 09:38

She's not responsible for her paedophile brother. She is, however, responsible for standing at the Despatch Box and stating Transwomen are Women and Transmen are Men as if it is settled government policy. Contrary to the Equality Act.

And then lying about it when she thought she had a shot at being PM.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2022 09:39

I think many people would assume trans when they see TRA but he is definitely male.

KatVonlabonk · 13/09/2022 09:39

He should be in jail.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2022 09:38

I wasn't correcting you, just clarifying for others.

bellinisurge · 13/09/2022 09:38

She's not responsible for her paedophile brother. She is, however, responsible for standing at the Despatch Box and stating Transwomen are Women and Transmen are Men as if it is settled government policy. Contrary to the Equality Act.

KatVonlabonk · 13/09/2022 09:38

Yup, just found it.

Interesting family indeed

(i did say TRA not trans btw)

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4591330-apparently-penny-mordaunts-brother-nearly-married-david-paisley

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2022 09:38

She has two brothers, I think this one is the younger.