Hyde Park 29th May 12pm

No one had blackface, so why it’s even a topic here, I don’t know.

Why are you lying? No one has said balaclava are racist or that lesbians are racist. Blackface is racist.

black balaclavas are blackface now.

and being a lesbian is racist and probably also colonialist, and definitely fascist.

Why are these assholes so incredibly tiresome? Don't they get fed up of themselves? Don't they bore themselves shitless? If you locked one of these utter fuckwits in a room by himself how long would it be before he started shouting "FASCIST RACIST!" "NO YOU'RE A FASCIST RACIST TRANSPHOBE!" at himself? I reckon three hours.

God, they're so boring.

Black Mumsnet board really will not appreciate a group of white women asking them if they think black pampers is blackface and racist.

I take a dim view of pasting threads from the Black Mumsnetters board on here to try and score points, just as I do of white Mumsnetters posting on that board, whether that's to argue or seek approval. As far as I'm concerned, BMN posters should be left alone to talk about whatever they want, and yes, that includes criticising FWR if they so wish.

It would be intriguing to hear from any black feminists reading to hear their opinion on the "Black Pamper" character.

Black Mumsnet us a space that was specifically requested as a 'non white' space, many threads remind posters, some of whom may have been drawn in by a thread appearing in Active, of that at the outset.

What you are trying to do is the equivalent of TRAs shouting 'what about intersex people?'

It is irrelevant to your argument. And that cohort of people have asked to be left out of various debates, to be left to direct their own discussions without having to explain themselves, their life experiences.

Nobody has said there are no black women on FWR. But if there are they are either staying silent, or can't recognise racism.

I find it racist that some are implying that there are no black women on FWR.

Also, BMN is not a place where people should go to settle arguments from other boards.

This is always what women on here say when women feminists point out racism. The feminist board has had an issue with racism for a long time. So the denial of obvious blackface does not surprise me.

You're not interested in hearing from black people on race issues.

Not what I said. It's not my place to post there. I will however call out misogynistic slurs here on the feminist board. Whoever is using them. The slur Karen is retconned from "speak to the manager" misogyny from (white) MRAs on Reddit. It's had a faux progressive spin since then, which is great for misogynistic men. You appear to be unaware of this.

Anyway I have said this many times. I'll say it again, I imagine, but that's enough for now.

I don't think anyone is realistically saying take it to BMN, that would be awful because it is blatantly racist.

To be honest, I think some of those photos look dreadful. They made me squirm and I say that knowing the context, and remembering that even luminaries like Julie Bindel were laughing and retweeting the Black Pampers meme only a couple of weeks ago. But I am also unimpressed at posters trying to use the Black Mumsnetters board to (and I quote) 'settle' an argument. I thought it was meant to be a place where black posters could talk among themselves, uninterrupted, about whatever they choose?

I get it, I get it.

You're not interested in hearing from black people on race issues.

This is FWR. I don't post on Black Mumsnetters. On FWR people call out misogyny, such as misogynistic slurs.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/black_mumsnetters/4529252-woman-face-and-calming-karen-a-slur-get-my-back-up

This is the feminist board, it's unsurprising that people are going to be challenged on misogynistic slurs, really.

It's statements such as this

You do realise it's a true statement? I'm a racist for calling out a misogynistic meme for what it is?

Karen originated with an incel on Reddit. It's hardly surprising many women object, is it?

It's statements such as this and the fact that neither Mr Menno nor anyone else had a look at his costume and thought "wait a minute" that gives FWR such a bad reputation for racism.

Taking the Black Panthers name and trivialising in a derogatory fashion was bad enough.

It was, he spoke about it on a livestream this evening. He was taking the piss out of the Manchester TRA's in black bloc, subsequently referred to as the black pampers, which is why he's wearing the black body suit and a nappy.

Karen originated with an incel on Reddit. It's hardly surprising many women object, is it?

I think the men have arrived to mansplain to the women...

'I spoke to all the other feminists and they say they hate you, too' 😂

'FWR raids' 😂

*appalling

NOT appealing