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Why would anyone not become a legal man?

110 replies

Skinterior · 03/03/2022 08:16

Gender recognition reform bill to be tabled at Holyrood www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-60589578

I can't wait for this. I'm definitely going to change my legal gender.

It would be much easier to achieve equality this way, just think of all that administrative male privilege I'll be able to access. Im pretty sure I'll get a pay rise almost straight away, as soon as HR run the numbers and see that I'm a financial anomaly compared to my male peers.

I could report a crime and be taken seriously. It's all very exciting.

Im not worried about health care, obviously I still have my cervix, so that's not a concern.

One thing though, DH is refusing to change to be a legal woman - I can't imagine why.

Im not homophobic, Im happy to become a lesbian. But it means DS technically won't have a mother. It might be a bit of a difficult one for him.

I guess Mermaids have a handy pamphlet that will sort all this out.

I really can't understand what everyone is complaining about...

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VaddaABeetch · 03/03/2022 17:59

I wear mens clothes. I’ve discovered that their hoodies, T-shirts & joggers are better quality & cheaper then the womens.

I’m really glad to be a man. I’m 52 & working in the same industry since I was 17. That’s 35 years x 20% of my pay. It was very clever of me to save all that money so I could take it as a lump sum now.

Sexnotgender · 03/03/2022 17:35

@MayMorris

I already decided some time ago if asked to share my pronouns I’ll go for he/him. Even though they’ve been calling me she for years
Me too. If anyone insists I’ll be he/him.

I’ve got a name that is often used for men anyway so don’t even need to change that.

MayMorris · 03/03/2022 17:01

I already decided some time ago if asked to share my pronouns I’ll go for he/him.
Even though they’ve been calling me she for years

DontLikeCrumpets · 03/03/2022 16:56

@JellySaurus

LOL your typo reminds me of Ladies and Jellybeans.For your listening pleasure here's a great rendition from the aptly named album True Lies and Other Legends

Tidyspy · 03/03/2022 16:55

I wonder if there'll be time to move to Scotland and become a man before Xmas? It always seems to be much more enjoyable for the chaps, hardly anything to organise, just receive gifts of whisky and socks. Not to mention World Book Day - this time next year I won't have to give it a thought! Add that to the automatic pay increase, more time pottering in the shed, no requirement to think about holiday childcare... this is going to be AWESOME.

Cagedbirdsinging · 03/03/2022 16:47

@BluerThanRobinsEggs...Grin
Mission creep - yes , every room is under DIY attack.
Selection of wood off-cuts - oh yes (including some beautiful pieces of mahogany inherited from my Dad and two 3 metre lengths of yew for new worktops).
All my screws and rawl plugs are sorted by size in the biscuit tin . Ditto nails .)
But you should see my beautiful sewing box and ribbon collection !

JamieNorthlife · 03/03/2022 16:10

@Chersfrozenface

Next thing... Can I have two sets of ID, one for when I'm in woman mode and one for when I'm in man mode?

(I've done re-enactment for years and have plenty of experience of playing male roles, with photos.)

That's a great idea. I can use one for legal work and one to be into dodgy stuff....
BluerThanRobinsEggs · 03/03/2022 15:50

@Cagedbirdsinging

Last week I did not finish putting up a shelf . I have left all my tools on the hearthstone and the shelf is just a plank on the floor getting in the way . I'm a man , aren't I ?
Did you get Mission Creep and start tearing off some wall paper in another room? Do you have a selection of bits of wood in the shed "just in case"? Do you have an old biscuit tin full of odd screws and nails and rawl plugs instead of ladies sewing bits?
Beowulfa · 03/03/2022 15:36

I've only ever seen men spitting in public, and that grotesque act of forcibly blowing snot out onto the ground (or onto a hand and then wiping it against a bus shelter as I witnessed recently) rather than using a fucking tissue.

If I self ID as a man can I go round doing this with impunity?

Cagedbirdsinging · 03/03/2022 15:33

Last week I did not finish putting up a shelf . I have left all my tools on the hearthstone and the shelf is just a plank on the floor getting in the way .
I'm a man , aren't I ?

Waitwhat23 · 03/03/2022 15:01

@BruceAndNosh

I've got enough facial hair to be considered manly. I also wear make up as I refuse to conform to male stereotypes
Same. I might stop bleaching my 'tache.

I'm looking forward to dropping all the wife work. No more having to remember birthdays, write cards at Christmas, know about appointments etc etc.

BruceAndNosh · 03/03/2022 14:54

I've got enough facial hair to be considered manly.
I also wear make up as I refuse to conform to male stereotypes

DomesticatedZombie · 03/03/2022 14:47

@WeeBisom

Remember as per the new law you have to prove you’ve lived “as a man”’for at least three months. Make sure you keep a diary to show them all the manly things you’ve been doing. I’m sure they have an objective criteria to test whether you have behaved manly enough for three months in a row.
I have a chainsaw and sensible shoes.

That should do it.

Beamur · 03/03/2022 14:35

It would seem that WFH has also turned me into a man. Although I have long hair..but I do put the bins out and walk the dog at night in the dark. Does that count?

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 03/03/2022 14:25

Absolutely Skinterior. Why would anyone want to be a woman when just changing your legal ‘sex marker’ could get you a pay rise and eliminate all discrimination against you? Effectively it does of course because your salary is now no longer compared to that of men for the purposes of the gender pay gap, because you are one! Bingo.

Slothtoes · 03/03/2022 14:19

I’ll do it, I’d love to be able to walk around outside on my own, day or night, without worrying about what other men might do.

DisillusionedTech · 03/03/2022 13:50

@WeeBisom

Remember as per the new law you have to prove you’ve lived “as a man”’for at least three months. Make sure you keep a diary to show them all the manly things you’ve been doing. I’m sure they have an objective criteria to test whether you have behaved manly enough for three months in a row.
That’s easy I’ve lived as a man for decades, wear jeans, tee-shirts, hoodies, am person who puts the bins out, ‘male’ interests, ‘male’ tech job.

I used to think the only female bit I did was giving birth but Flouncing Freddie seems to think thats manly too

Thenose · 03/03/2022 13:26

"I'm not sure if I'm a man, or just WFH" Grin

No worries, I'll clear this up for you: deffo a man. Everyone knows that every real woman who WFH dresses like a sexy secretary to achieve the overarching aim of her work: the successful seduction of her boss. Also, no real woman posts their daily workwear pics to Flickr without heels, a nineties push-up bra and a full face on, so I don't know how you'd even begin to get any validation over there. There's nothing left for you but to embrace your maleness: chuck your keys in the garden, stretch your legs and demand a shiny wank pod.

Waitwhat23 · 03/03/2022 13:13

@Justme56

Any attire will do. If Harry Styles can wear one, any man can!
Ooh, watch out! I mentioned Harry Styles wearing the clothes he wanted to wear on another thread and was told by an anti woman poster that only the 'right sort of man' seems to be accepted as wearing 'feminine' clothes. I have an inkling what veiled implication that poster was trying to make but it seems that Harry is not allowed to be mentioned!
Justme56 · 03/03/2022 12:59

Any attire will do. If Harry Styles can wear one, any man can!

LangClegsInSpace · 03/03/2022 12:43

This thread would not be complete without a reminder of the wonderful work of the #ManFriday chaps a couple of years back:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3261705-Turns-out-Hampstead-swimming-ponds-are-single-SEX-after-all

ClawedButler · 03/03/2022 12:38

hello yes I would like to buy some Male Privilege (TM) please.

I like cars, so that's a clear and unequivocal indication that I am really a man, isn't it? I wore trousers as a child as well. I mean, all the signs were there.

MsFogi · 03/03/2022 12:33

@WeeBisom

Remember as per the new law you have to prove you’ve lived “as a man”’for at least three months. Make sure you keep a diary to show them all the manly things you’ve been doing. I’m sure they have an objective criteria to test whether you have behaved manly enough for three months in a row.
No need - just take photos to show you have been wearing trousers and you'll be good to go.
JellySaurus · 03/03/2022 12:31

Citrus? Clitoris!

JellySaurus · 03/03/2022 12:30

@334bu

Sorry when it comes to inheriting a title they still want to know if you ever had a penis. No penis no title.
But if you identify as having a penis then you have always had a penis. Anyway, a citrus is just a small penis, so don't be size-ist.