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If it was so complicated.....

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rabbitwoman · 01/01/2022 14:46

  • How come there are 7 billion people on the planet?
  • how did anyone get married before same sex marriage became legal?

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Metabigot · 06/01/2022 22:57

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

If its so complicated, how come when a Lord, Duke etc dies, they know which relatives can inherit the title and associated property and which can't, despite being older and/or a closer relation?
Yeah you can't trans out of that one, primogeniture law specifically forbids it howcome that's not transphobia when everything else is...
rabbitwoman · 06/01/2022 20:28

I thought it was a lot more complicated than this!!! Come on, NHS, you should know better.....

If it was so complicated.....
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Aroundtheworldin80moves · 06/01/2022 19:27

If its so complicated, how come when a Lord, Duke etc dies, they know which relatives can inherit the title and associated property and which can't, despite being older and/or a closer relation?

crazyjinglist · 06/01/2022 19:23

If it's so complicated, why wouldn't transplanting a tail and pointy ears onto my body make me a cat (even if I'd always fancied chasing mice and claimed to suffer from hairballs)?

Swashbuckled · 06/01/2022 18:59

Everyone loves The Life of Brian, along with the scene which includes Brian’s mother (and the other women) wearing false beards and speaking in gruff voices so they can have a bash at the stoning.

That kind of thing…so those watching will be laughing along with us.

Metabigot · 06/01/2022 18:53

@GinUnicorn

How come we can see scans at 16 weeks?
Harmony test at 8/9 weeks
Swashbuckled · 06/01/2022 18:52

I don’t know that I am jesting, but am trying to feel inspired by things that could be done to make our point. There was a recent thread about trying to engage the silent majority; the ordinary men and women who feel this is ridiculous but are not really touched by it. (The one where we tried to think of a catchy name for GC.)

So I’m just sitting here with my glass of “after work whisky” trying to think of humorous scenes (“Happenings”, if you like) that would make these ordinary men and women laugh in recognition and encourage them to come on board.

And I’m aware that I am up in the Grim North and a long way from the places where these sort of Happenings would get noticed.

rabbitwoman · 06/01/2022 18:19

@Swashbuckled

Perhaps we could gather in gangs of about thirty, and queue up outside the men’s theatre toilets in the interval. Quickly place our false beards over our ears and make the men wait behind all thirty of us to take their turn.

(Thanks; will check out the link Smile)

You jest - it's a crazy plan, but it might just work.....
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Swashbuckled · 06/01/2022 18:17

Perhaps we could gather in gangs of about thirty, and queue up outside the men’s theatre toilets in the interval. Quickly place our false beards over our ears and make the men wait behind all thirty of us to take their turn.

(Thanks; will check out the link Smile)

OldCrone · 06/01/2022 18:13

There were some excellent women demonstrating this, I think, they called themselves girl Friday? They would 'identify as men' on Fridays and then I bade men's spaces?

They were Man Friday, and it all started here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3176098-I-am-about-to-ID-as-a-man

Swashbuckled · 06/01/2022 17:58

I’m trying to think of ways of making these points in hard-hitting places without having to expose my breasts.

I’m finding it difficult to think of any that don’t put biological women in danger.

rabbitwoman · 06/01/2022 16:45

There were some excellent women demonstrating this, I think, they called themselves girl Friday? They would 'identify as men' on Fridays and then I bade men's spaces?

The most memorable was when they chose the hampstead heath open ponds and arrived at the men's section (I think they were topless but I can't remember).

The men called the police who turned up and were, I think, amused?

Obviously, covid put pay to their antics....

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Swashbuckled · 06/01/2022 09:41

@rabbitwoman

If it is so complicated, how come I am not allowed to just wear swimming trunks at my local swimming pool!?
This is interesting.

Wisdom of doing this aside, I wonder what the response from authorities would be if groups of topless women (in swimming shorts) pitched up at local leisure centres explaining they identified as male. Would they respect this and let it go?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 02/01/2022 16:52

If its so complicated, how come no one with a penis has birthed a child in the last many billion births?

ScrollingLeaves · 02/01/2022 16:49

If it’s so complicated why don’t lions morph into lionesses, rams into ewes, horses into mares, peacocks into pea-hens? And if it’s so complicated how come we always know the difference between them?

rabbitwoman · 02/01/2022 09:06

If it is so complicated, how come I am not allowed to just wear swimming trunks at my local swimming pool!?

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Igmum · 02/01/2022 09:04

If it's so complicated how on earth has the patriarchy survived for so long? Don't they get confused? Ever?

DaisiesandButtercups · 02/01/2022 08:50

If it is so complicated how does James Max know which people should be kept out of his clubs and restaurants?

rabbitwoman · 02/01/2022 07:50

doyouseawhatisea thank you for sharing your beautiful, painful story Xxxx

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NotBadConsidering · 02/01/2022 07:17

DoYouSeaWhatISea Flowers

If it’s so complicated, can a gender ideologist explain how Team GB selected their swimmers for the mixed medley relay? Did they need to make sure they had someone good at breaststroke and identified the right way?

If it was so complicated.....
DoYouSeaWhatISea · 02/01/2022 06:43

I don’t want to derail this important thread with my personal situation, so I’m back to try and give it a bump.

DoYouSeaWhatISea · 02/01/2022 03:05

Thanks you, everyone, for your kind words to a stranger on MN. It’s been 11 years since we lost our son, but it could be yesterday. Losing a little boy after almost 7 years of leaving no stone unturned to try and find life saving treatment, is beyond devastating.

Our daughter is a gift, a strong and healthy 10 yr old, and we consider ourselves beyond fortunate that science was able to help us have her, for the 2nd part of our parenting journey. This required medical professionals to understand the very basics, simply that there are only 2 sexes.

It’s maddening to see this sex/gender debate going on, trying to gaslight us into buying in to their ideology.

Thanks again for acknowledging our little boy, it meant more than words can say.

ScrollingLeaves · 01/01/2022 23:55

“DoYouSeaWhatISea

We have Genetic conditions that run in males our family, so I had PGD (preimplantation genetic diagnosis) with IVF. I knew the sex was female prior to embryo transfer.

She’s now a feisty 10 yr old girl, and is the reason we wake up every morning.

Prior to having her, we had a son who died just before his 7th birthday. I wouldn’t wish this heartbreak on anyone, and am eternally grateful for the scientists and doctors who understand there are 2 sexes.”

I am so sorry for this dreadfully sad loss of your lovely little boy due to this genetic condition.

rabbitwoman · 01/01/2022 23:42

If its so complicated, how did race officials know to try and physically Kathrine Switzer from running the Boston Marathon in 1967?

If it was so complicated.....
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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 01/01/2022 23:21

If it's so complicated, wouldn't it be best to hear out all arguments surrounding the extremely complicated thing, in order to understand.
Instead of, you know, sending death and rape threats and calling for people to be fired etc for talking.

Star

And to all the excellent specific examples posted here.