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DD has just called me a bloody T*RF!

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SauvignonBlanche · 24/10/2021 14:07

DD is home from Uni, she identifies as a feminist and a lesbian but when JK Rowling somehow came into the conversation and I said something vaguely GC she came out with the old TWAW and shut down any debate by calling me a TERF.

It’s scary how there’s no debate allowed, she just told me to educate myself on intersectional feminism but then left the room when I declined to say that JK was ‘wrong’.

Apart from telling her to FU how do you have a debate with an opinionated young person who can’t see there’s the possibility of being GC without being transphobic?

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Leafstamp · 24/10/2021 14:14

Good advice re same techniques as cult members.

foxgoosefinch · 24/10/2021 14:14

Tell her to read some proper feminism - second wave feminism was “intersectional” anyway and liberal feminists now just wave the term around as a buzzword without fully understanding it. She needs to read some feminist classics - bell hooks, Adrienne Rich, Angela Davies etc!

Leafstamp · 24/10/2021 14:14

Ask the really difficult (uncomfortable ) questions, with difficult (uncomfortable) images to accompany them if possible.

Some ideas here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4168284-Staniland-Question-is-so-good-Can-we-think-of-others

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/10/2021 14:12

Point out that as a lesbian her genital preferences are transphobic?

In all seriousness, the best thing you can do is keep channels of communication open as far as possible. In some ways it is similar to being in a cult and some of the same advice in how to deal with may be useful e.g. theconversation.com/how-to-talk-someone-out-of-a-damaging-cult-68930

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