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Patrick Harvie Sky Interview

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Sexnotgender · 09/08/2021 16:35

Apparently transwomen are women in the same way black women and Jewish women are women.

Harvie really needs to go. That is utterly unacceptable from anyone let alone the leader of an albeit pointless party.

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JellySlice · 10/08/2021 23:45

@Thingybob

Using his logic transmen are men like black men or Jewish men. Why then do they often use women's spaces like refuges or prisons? What is the problem with them going with all the other men?
By his logic he doesn't need to think about transmen. Because transmen are also not-men. Being female, they are even more not-men than the males who choose to become not-men. Therefore not something he feels any need to think about.

TLDR transmen are female therefore irrelevant.

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Sexnotgender · 10/08/2021 20:33

@Thingybob

Using his logic transmen are men like black men or Jewish men. Why then do they often use women's spaces like refuges or prisons? What is the problem with them going with all the other men?
I think you’re being generous assuming he’s using any kind of logic.
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Thingybob · 10/08/2021 13:07

Using his logic transmen are men like black men or Jewish men. Why then do they often use women's spaces like refuges or prisons? What is the problem with them going with all the other men?

jeaux90 · 10/08/2021 12:44

That was grim. What aching pong hole of a racist and misogynistic man he is.

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Sexnotgender · 09/08/2021 21:13

@Freespeecher

He's not the first to make such an argument but I'm still scratching my head at how anyone can think it's a triumphant 'check and mate' point.
He’s far from the first. It’s been doing the rounds on social media for a few years.

To hear a member of parliament voice this vile nonsense is something I didn’t see coming.

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Freespeecher · 09/08/2021 21:11

He's not the first to make such an argument but I'm still scratching my head at how anyone can think it's a triumphant 'check and mate' point.

dyslek · 09/08/2021 21:06

Why am I thinking of Penfolds sidekick?

(Incase anyone thinks Im being unkind by focusing on trivalities rather than what was said. If you watched the clip, you will see I am actually being kind, by focusing of trivalities.)

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Sexnotgender · 09/08/2021 20:58

@Rhannion

As my other comment was deleted am I allowed to say he is a vile baw bag?
I don’t see why not, feels like an accurate description.
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Rhannion · 09/08/2021 20:39

Women in Scotland need as much help as possible to stop self ID up here and stop Harvie and his crew from ruining our rights.

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Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 09/08/2021 20:22

@howonearthdidwegethere

He's not going anywhere, apart from into government at the request of Nicola Sturgeon. Quite likely this will be announced in next week or two. If you have objections, probably best to email your SNP MSPs to let them know how you feel about this.
This Sad Also go donate to FWS (again if necessary!) for their case against Scotgov's redefinition of woman
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Sexnotgender · 09/08/2021 19:43

This argument makes me so angry! HOW DARE HE? It is so mindblowingly insulting.

Insulting… fucking ILLOGICAL… racist… you name it.

Right side of history my arse.

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QueenPeary · 09/08/2021 19:13

Apparently transwomen are women in the same way black women and Jewish women are women.

This argument makes me so angry! HOW DARE HE? It is so mindblowingly insulting.

I happen to be a white woman and what I have in common with every other woman in the world, including black and Jewish women and all the rest of us, is our female biology and the oppression and disadvantages we suffer because of it.

The only way to be a woman in the "same way" as that is to have female biology. OBVIOUSLY.

ArabellaScott · 09/08/2021 18:54

Might be worth reading this related thread:

(content warning, link in that thread to Wings over Scotland blog contains info on co-convener of the Rainbow Greens with some v unsavoury imagery)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4316945-Why-I-resigned-from-the-Scottish-Greens-Andy-Wightman

TheHandmadeTails · 09/08/2021 18:34

If the TRA's were looking for a useful idiot to advance their cause then he's fallen at the first hurdle by demonstrating himself capable of only fulfilling half of the remit.

Grin beautifully put

FOJN · 09/08/2021 18:23

There's a man who doesn't give a shit about the issues hoping he can gain some political capital by parroting TRA talking points harvested from twitter accounts with manga avatars and pronouns in their bio.

If the TRA's were looking for a useful idiot to advance their cause then he's fallen at the first hurdle by demonstrating himself capable of only fulfilling half of the remit.

howonearthdidwegethere · 09/08/2021 18:22

He's not going anywhere, apart from into government at the request of Nicola Sturgeon. Quite likely this will be announced in next week or two. If you have objections, probably best to email your SNP MSPs to let them know how you feel about this.

alkanet · 09/08/2021 18:19

What an absolute knobwart.

JellySlice · 09/08/2021 18:18

@Jaysmith71

And since the Rule is that a jew is born to a jewish mother, does that mean they are assigned jewish at birth?
AJAB, but OFAB. Because Judaism, like transgenderism, is a belief, not a physical reality.
Jaysmith71 · 09/08/2021 17:54

And since the Rule is that a jew is born to a jewish mother, does that mean they are assigned jewish at birth?

TalkingOutYerArse · 09/08/2021 17:51

What a knob. Yet again, another man thinking he can tell us what a woman is.

Jaysmith71 · 09/08/2021 17:49

Both black and jewish women, and black jewish women, have a common genetic inheritance indicative of a common ancestry and origins in a particular part of the world.

So the connection is....?

Rhannion · 09/08/2021 17:48

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Sexnotgender · 09/08/2021 17:46

@highame

I really don't remember seeing that. Wtf did he just say, I had to unbung my ears and have a second listen.

As an aside, apparently 80% (or more) of the population is a vocal minority Confused

I’m amazed you listened to it twice. I struggled through it once, he makes my blood boil.
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Jorrris · 09/08/2021 17:23

@Sexnotgender

I think you’ll find he’s an anti-Semitic, racist, misogynistic, equality act misrepresenting arse.
Yep.

Transwomen are men. Not a subset of women.

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