Page 11 | What are all the liberal celebs so quiet now at the spa?

ClarrieGrundy · 2021-07-05T08:29:19+00:00

So we all knew that a man would get his cock out in front of women and little girls in a changing room at some point. And we would be told that the toddlers should just get over their bigotry. Anyway, I was wondering why we haven't heard from all the slebs who have be parroting the TWAW line. Has anyone heard? Has anyone come out and and defended this brave penis? (Which I bet was a little bit hard as it sat exposing itself to a changing room full of women and little girls.) Emma Watson? Sarah Silverman? Daniel Radcliffe? Why so quiet? I listen to a few podcasts from comedians based in LA and I am always saddened to hear the casual way that LA millennials have decided that JKR is now toxic. Haven't heard anything about this yet from all of them. Or am I being unfair?

DaisiesandButtercups · 05/07/2021 10:17

My heart really goes out to the mother who made that video, thanks for sharing it here JoodyBlue.

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MummBraTheEverLeaking · 05/07/2021 10:15

It didn't happen 😂

Righty ho, but if she videoed the individual you'd all be screaming about the privacy invasion.

So women are either nasty liars or nasty voyeurs. Call them bigots, destroy their credibility, anything except listen to them, believe them, respect them.

There's no depths some people will not sink to in order to defend males inserting themselves into every single space, no matter the distress they cause to others.

Now bugger off and trip trap elsewhere.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/07/2021 10:14

For those repeatedly minded to disbelieve women's accounts of sexual abuse, it's worth remembering that we all post on Mumsnet who have openly campaigned for women to be believed and heard about rape and sexual assault. (Indecent exposure being evidenced as a gateway crime to other sexual crimes)

www.mumsnet.com/campaigns/we-believe-you-mumsnet-rape-awareness-campaign

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ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 10:13

@NotBadConsidering

I have a few theories OP.

Some celebs have only a superficial understanding of the entire issue.

Some have a massive blind spot to certain aspects.

Many celebs are just completely dumb.

Some of them probably see it now but realise they’ve dug themselves into a hole and can’t figure a way out so are hoping to stay quiet, keep out of it and hope the whole thing blows over.

Only the truly creepy, offensive, worst of the worst would defend a child being exposed to a penis, or deny that it even happened.

I think you may have nailed it.

The other thing that I have to get right is that a lot of celebs may be very pretty, or good at acting, or even be pretty and good at acting, but a lot of them are as thick as mince.

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yourhairiswinterfire · 05/07/2021 10:12

You also think it's perfectly rational for an anti-trans person to blame trans people when a Wispa randomly appears in their garden? When it in fact was a neighbouring child?

You talking about Allison? Because she's been threatened with violence, hounded at work by TRAs, has had to witness vile lesbophobia, has been racially abused on Twitter by the ''right side of history'' gang, and two charmers even suggested burning her house down.

I don't think her fear of ''the right side of history'' gang is irrational at all, no.

Or are you just going to suggest that none of that happened either?

Etorih · 05/07/2021 10:11

I'm so sick of the anti woman, anti safeguarding, homophobic, racist, stinking rhetoric that pour out of people's mouths in the name of 'progress' from the self identified 'enlightened'. The constant push to diminish children's boundaries and leave them at risk from sexual predators. I've absolutely had enough of it.

Sophoclesthefox · 05/07/2021 10:11

@PaleBlueMoonlight

I don’t really understand the “it didn’t happen” comments. Surely the activist position is that it should be able to happen and therefore their concern would be with how complaining about it was “transphobic”. Or is that activist position that it did happen but that the complaining didn’t? If the activist position is that no male exposed their penis in a women and girls’ space, then presumably that would be quickly followed with “but of course it would be fine if they did provided they do not have a male gender identity”?

This.

If it didn’t happen, why are so many people keen to say that there wouldn’t be a problem if it did?

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ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 10:11

Yeahbutnaw - I think you may have jumped the shark on this one.

Is it a known LGBT hotspot? The women's changing rooms? Is it known for having penises in it? The family-friendly section?

I think you have tipped your hand because that is utter nonsense. In this day of social media, do you really think that a quick google would not bring up, 'Hey ladies, if you are happy for your 4 year old daughter to see some random's cock and balls, this is the place for you!'

It had one such review, but I imagine that it it was a well known T hotspot, people would be aware.

And even if it is, that does not make it right.

Females have known the threat of male genitalia since we crawled from the primordial ooze. Rape and sexual violence has been used as a weapon in war since the first caveman got a bit pissed off about his mate chasing the wrong wilderbeast.

It is hardwired into us. And no one can gaslight us out of that.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/07/2021 10:09

It's a real pick and mix from the bag of TRA responses. From,
It didn't happen
She's a right wing bigot so shouldn't be listened to.
The penis is female
Children shouldn't look at the naked penis
Get used to it
TWAW so no problem.

No matter how serious, no matter what the evidence, the rights of men self identifying as women to expose themselves to little girls will be defended.

NotBadConsidering · 05/07/2021 10:09

I have a few theories OP.

Some celebs have only a superficial understanding of the entire issue.

Some have a massive blind spot to certain aspects.

Many celebs are just completely dumb.

Some of them probably see it now but realise they’ve dug themselves into a hole and can’t figure a way out so are hoping to stay quiet, keep out of it and hope the whole thing blows over.

Only the truly creepy, offensive, worst of the worst would defend a child being exposed to a penis, or deny that it even happened.

ArabellaScott · 05/07/2021 10:07

Tripadvisor review from 2018 that mentions the same situation (screenshot attached)

the woman whose video went viral

and now another woman talking about her and her 6 year old daughter on youtube.

I believe women when they talk about being sexually assaulted. Exhibitionism and flashing is a form of sexual assault.

What are all the liberal celebs so quiet now at the spa?

PaleBlueMoonlight · 05/07/2021 10:05

I don’t really understand the “it didn’t happen” comments. Surely the activist position is that it should be able to happen and therefore their concern would be with how complaining about it was “transphobic”. Or is that activist position that it did happen but that the complaining didn’t? If the activist position is that no male exposed their penis in a women and girls’ space, then presumably that would be quickly followed with “but of course it would be fine if they did provided they do not have a male gender identity”?

timeisnotaline · 05/07/2021 10:03

I think it’s Laurie Penny who said the(9yo?) girl having a naked man sit next to her should have looked away and you’re bringing your children up wrong if they stare at men’s genitals.which happen to be naked, next to you and in the women and children’s section of the spa.
Brain. Explode. Do you think she thinks children trafficked for sex are in this because of their own actions? Maybe there was a point a well brought up 7yo should have looked away and then she wouldn’t have been trafficked so really that’s on her, the 7yo?

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ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 10:02

As far as I know the Wispa thing was acknowledged as a mistake. Have never seen any TRA people apologise for anything, or admit that they are wrong about anything.

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LittleMyTopKnot · 05/07/2021 10:01

I am really trying to understand this and I do know that evidence is important.

But why should this woman take a video of a lot of naked women and underaged girls?

I hear what yeahbutnaw is saying but I am really unhappy at the thought of anyone filming underaged girls naked . Do you really think she should have done that?

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ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 10:00

The attempts to undermine the woman are completely moronic, but they will stick.

What makes me so cross (apart from the obvious) is that the LGBT is going to be tarnished by the suggestions that they are all perverts, or supportive of the Antifa wankers.
And that GC people are being lumped in with the religious right. (I have no problem with people having right wing opinions, or being religious, but the anti-LGBT folk are also wankers.)

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yeahbutnaw · 05/07/2021 10:00

@Helleofabore

That she complained about children being exposed but no parents came forward to complain? That she didn't have a child with her?

Which parents would come forward knowing that they are likely to have the media's focus directly on them or their child?

Sounds to me like the same old agenda, deny, deny, deny. It never happens, it only is a tiny number of people so what is the problem, it happened only once...

And if that doesn't work, let's undermine the credibility of the person reporting. So far this morning I have read 'that woman is even worse than any male having their genitals within a metre of a 9 year old girl because she videoed in the reception area of a spa where some people were fully dressed or covered and had no expectation of being able to be naked in the reception area'. From someone on another thread.

And now this woman has been ascribed an ulterior motive in attending a spa by yeahbutnaw. A woman who has a long history of anti-LGBT rhetoric on her Instagram decided to go to a spa known for being an LGBT hotspot... just randomly?

So, she has manufactured outrage. Just like the Wispa.

Please do continue. It is hugely revealing to the many who will read this thread.

So you think it's perfectly rational for an anti-LGBT person to go to a known LGBT hotspot?

You also think it's perfectly rational for an anti-trans person to blame trans people when a Wispa randomly appears in their garden? When it in fact was a neighbouring child?

There's a long history of anti-trans people manufacturing incidents to incite hatred of trans people.

lionheart · 05/07/2021 09:59

@Yesterdaysleftovers

They’re not silent. Liberal “feminists” like Laurie Penny and Anita Sarkeesian are actually defending it (it’s all a right wing conspiracy apparently). I am so angry, not just for women and girls, but also for LGB people, who are now having their sexuality linked to paedophilia once again, putting back decades of progress.

Absolutely this.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 05/07/2021 09:59

You know who else has been quiet of late? Mermaids and Stonewall.

Curious, isn't it?

JoodyBlue · 05/07/2021 09:58

those saying it didn't happen - you really are beyond the pale

youtu.be/pAkUwLqzp-M

Helleofabore · 05/07/2021 09:54

That she complained about children being exposed but no parents came forward to complain? That she didn't have a child with her?

Which parents would come forward knowing that they are likely to have the media's focus directly on them or their child?

Sounds to me like the same old agenda, deny, deny, deny. It never happens, it only is a tiny number of people so what is the problem, it happened only once...

And if that doesn't work, let's undermine the credibility of the person reporting. So far this morning I have read 'that woman is even worse than any male having their genitals within a metre of a 9 year old girl because she videoed in the reception area of a spa where some people were fully dressed or covered and had no expectation of being able to be naked in the reception area'. From someone on another thread.

And now this woman has been ascribed an ulterior motive in attending a spa by yeahbutnaw. A woman who has a long history of anti-LGBT rhetoric on her Instagram decided to go to a spa known for being an LGBT hotspot... just randomly?

So, she has manufactured outrage. Just like the Wispa.

Please do continue. It is hugely revealing to the many who will read this thread.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/07/2021 09:54

Agreed OP. Funny how safeguarding children is so "not the done thing" for some people isn't it?

DaisiesandButtercups · 05/07/2021 09:53

The silence of the vocal celebrities is certainly interesting

I wonder if any of them are having a rethink…

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/07/2021 09:52

Gotta love the "this never happened" posts