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Just when I was feeling things were starting to move in the right direction!

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HeavenHotel · 04/06/2021 00:39

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/15127834/20-babies-year-surrogates-16-nannies-100-kids/amp/

My apologies for the Sun link but I can't find any other recent stories covering this. I also can't see a thread on here about it.

  • JUST over a year ago, Kristina Ozturk was a mum-of-one. But now she's raising 20 babies, all of whom are her biological kids. The 23-year-oldd_, from Batumi, Georgia, and millionaire businessman husband Galip, 57, have paid £138,000 to surrogates for babies over the past year and two months.*

It genuinely makes me feel sick. Sick to the stomach. For those who can't see anything wrong with surrogacy maybe we should point them here.

So so so upset, those poor poor babies and those mothers. What is wrong with people?? It's like something out of a nightmare.

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HeavenHotel · 04/06/2021 14:57

Next time we have a thread supporting fucking celebrities who are out buying babies, more each month it would seem, we need to point to these people.

How many more are doing this but not in the public eye?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is just scratching the surface of Baby Supermarkets.

I just can't believe the world isn't recoiling in horror at this.

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Totallyrandomname · 04/06/2021 14:20

Yes this is sick. Babies as commodities and women’s bodies as commodities. Simple as that really

OneEpisode · 04/06/2021 13:31

Kristina gave birth at 17, and the husband is 34 years older. They live in Georgia so the nanny cost is different to the UK…

HowToMurderYourLife · 04/06/2021 13:31

@VorpalSword the cost of living in Georgia is very low, from a quick Google its above the average salary and for a live in position too. Its the only thing that is not bad about this whole situation.

I feel so sorry for those poor children. Its the way it's spun as a good news story too.

timeisnotaline · 04/06/2021 13:15

She must be mentally ill.

DdraigGoch · 04/06/2021 13:14

@ScreamingMeMe

Wtaf. How was this allowed??
Former USSR countries don't really do women's rights.
PleasantBirthday · 04/06/2021 13:09

However, do people on here object to the whole idea of surrogacy in general ? Is there an ethical surrogacy in peoples minds or is this something that you would always view as exploitative ?

Yeah, I find surrogacy completely objectionable in all circumstances. I think that it exploits women and it also exploits babies, treating both as commodities - women as functional things to produce a desired product, babies as a consumer item. The idea that it's OK to create a baby with the absolute intention of separating it from its mother immediately after birth is shocking to me.

Obviouspretzel · 04/06/2021 13:07

I haven't given any deep thought to surrogacy before if I am honest, but this sounds like a dystopian nightmare.

However, do people on here object to the whole idea of surrogacy in general ? Is there an ethical surrogacy in peoples minds or is this something that you would always view as exploitative ?

VorpalSword · 04/06/2021 12:40

I don’t understand the cost of the nannies, unless I am reading it wrong they only get £359 ($500) a month. That is insanely low.

Brysonette · 04/06/2021 12:19

It's the enabling of it that really gets to me, the surrogacy agency that are happy for them to keep buying babies. It really highlights that the babies and women are commodities. Makes me weep.

PleasantBirthday · 04/06/2021 12:00

It’ll take a surrogate dying for something to change and for people to realise how absolutely vile and abusive surrogacy is.

I don't actually think that a death of a woman would have such a profound effect on attitudes.

Nonmaquillee · 04/06/2021 11:57

It’s bloody horrific and exceptionally disturbing. I just don’t understand how it can be allowed.

HeavenHotel · 04/06/2021 11:54

Thanks ohholy that that was from February, think they have bought 10 more babies since then.

Some of those comments make me weep too. Seeing nothing wrong with it.

They are buying babies for a baby zoo and there doesn't seem to be any international laws stopping it.

Honestly sometimes you just feel the fight go out of you. I think I'm nearly there. :(

Been on theses boards many years changing my username almost monthly, but it's like trying to scoop the water out of sinking ship with a fork.

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AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 11:49

It’ll take a surrogate dying for something to change and for people to realise how absolutely vile and abusive surrogacy is.

CrazyNeighbour · 04/06/2021 10:25

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ScreamingMeMe · 04/06/2021 10:15

Wtaf. How was this allowed??

OhHolyJesus · 04/06/2021 09:18

You might like this thread in it OP

To think there is something wrong - 11 kids at 23 and wants surrogates to grow the rest http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4164145-To-think-there-is-something-wrong-11-kids-at-23-and-wants-surrogates-to-grow-the-rest

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