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To think there is something wrong - 11 kids at 23 and wants surrogates to grow the rest

183 replies

OhHolyJesus · 13/02/2021 10:54

I don't really have the words for this so will just link to this story:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/young-mum-23-already-11-23488380

OP posts:
Iqqq · 13/02/2021 10:56

I don't understand the problem?

Phoenixrising2020 · 13/02/2021 10:58

I am stunned. I think it is a terrible thing to do.

Doyoumind · 13/02/2021 10:59

Those poor children.

LolaSmiles · 13/02/2021 11:00

There are no words.

BrumBoo · 13/02/2021 11:01

@Iqqq

I don't understand the problem?
With any of it? The fact that this woman wants a ridiculous amount of children like they're a collection, but isn't even using her own body to do so? The effect it will have on these children? The eventuality that one of the women she's using as a breeding mare will end up with injuries or possibly even die from an unnecessary pregnancy?
PicsInRed · 13/02/2021 11:02

30ish to 104 siblings. And one special little heir grown in Mum. Hmm Those poor kids. Kids from enormous families (e.g. 10+) already complain of a lack of attention from their parents as they grow up. The lack of personal love, care and attention in this family will be like being raised in an orphanage.

LittleBearPad · 13/02/2021 11:02

That’s really screwed up.

MissBaskinIfYoureNasty · 13/02/2021 11:03

It's horrendous. Like baby farming.

Same4Walls · 13/02/2021 11:03

I read about her yesterday and absolutely nothing will convince me that she can care for all those babies properly. Their basic needs will be met but that's the very minimum she should be aiming for, they won't get adequate attention or 1-1 time and any issues later on will probably be missed.

I feel very sorry for their future. She seems to see them as just a number and not as individual children. Sad

Posturesorposes · 13/02/2021 11:03

This is a bizarre and appalling scenario. However - I am curious as to why the story has been spun as a “mum’s” story or we think something wrong with the woman? From what I gather the couple had one child biologically and then they have bizarrely decided to keep having lots of children via surrogacy. Awful on so many counts but how and why is this a mum story/thread rather than a something must be wrong with this couple story/thread?

PicsInRed · 13/02/2021 11:04

I would, however, want to know how much of this is coming from a 23 year old and how much from her presumably older and powerful wealthy husband before I too roundly condemn her.

How old were they when they married? How old is this millionaire husband?

Cocomarine · 13/02/2021 11:04

Yes, definitely something wrong with the young 23 year woman... and not the 56 year old millionaire husband who is paying for it all.

@OhHolyJesus bearing in mind your thread title 🙄 what’s your position on him?

HaveeeeYouMetTed · 13/02/2021 11:05

I mean I think she's absolutely crazy brave & I hope she can cope later on when they all get older but it's her life. They have enough money to financially support the children, there's no reason in that story to think they aren't loved or wanted so I really don't understand the "poor children" comments.

Cocomarine · 13/02/2021 11:06

@PicsInRed the husband is 56.
I hope you were sitting down, for I’m sure that shocked you.

Posturesorposes · 13/02/2021 11:06

And those poor women who need that money via surrogacy and have their meal plans controlled and then to have to give up their baby. For fucks sake.

JackieWeaverFever · 13/02/2021 11:06

Sad sad story.

Something is very wrong there.
She cannot realistically be giving good standard of care to 10 babies on her own...
Professionals in a nursery setting can't!

Posturesorposes · 13/02/2021 11:07

And cross posted with PP - I’m very taken that the story and this thread is about the woman, not the couple/man.

Cornettoninja · 13/02/2021 11:09

They’re not raising a family, they’re running a children’s home.

I can’t fathom how this is in any way going to be beneficial for those babies.

Bookwords · 13/02/2021 11:11

@Iqqq you don't see the problem?

Only on mumsnet can such rubbish bd spoken!

It's just awful!

Same4Walls · 13/02/2021 11:13

@Cornettoninja

They’re not raising a family, they’re running a children’s home.

I can’t fathom how this is in any way going to be beneficial for those babies.

Except it's actually worse for the children than if they were in a children's home ad at least a children's home as ratios and guidelines to adhere to. Sad
Beforethetakingoftoastandtea · 13/02/2021 11:13

Ive not read the story but a 56 year old husband? Clearly lots of issues.

LolaSmiles · 13/02/2021 11:13

The headline should really be 'millionaire couple rent wombs from vulnerable women so older millionaire man can have his 23 year old wife still has a young, pre-babies body for his own enjoyment'.

In some respects I feel sorry for the mum. She has seen how much her and her husband are willing to control the surrogate mums' lives, it makes you wonder what the control levels in their marriage are. With so many children, how likely is she to leave?

AaronPurr · 13/02/2021 11:13

@JackieWeaverFever

Sad sad story.

Something is very wrong there.
She cannot realistically be giving good standard of care to 10 babies on her own...
Professionals in a nursery setting can't!

That was my first thought, many of them look pretty similar in age. It's hard enough with years between children, but choosing to have this many babies is unfair on the children.
SqeakyHindge · 13/02/2021 11:13

Why did you only mention woman in your post title

LolaSmiles · 13/02/2021 11:14

** correction
'millionaire couple rent wombs from vulnerable women, so older millionaire man can have his 23 year old wife with a young, pre-babies body for his own enjoyment'.