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Census 2021

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jellybe · 21/03/2021 13:07

Can see another three on this - sorry if duplicating. Was just wondering how others answered the gender question?

I went with other then explained 'I don't ascribe the to social construct of gender I am a women: adult human female'

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TabbyStar · 22/03/2021 06:12

I left it blank then fed back in the box at the end that I didn't think they were going to get robust data since technicallly I probably should have answered no as I don't have a gender Identity so it doesn't match my sex. I also complained about the confusion about whether as a company director I was employed or self-employed as we seem to be both depending on which bit of policy or practice you look at, meaning we were excluded from Govt covid support, and their chat function was giving people contradictory answers, so all in all the whole thing was quite cathartic!

NiceGerbil · 22/03/2021 02:13

People who don't have a gender ID have variously

Left blank
Put in comments at end
Put something in the other gender box

It's up to you!

I wouldn't worry too much though :)

NiceGerbil · 22/03/2021 02:11

The gender question is optional.

It's up to you.

You can leave it blank.

If you have a female gender identity then if course putting it as an answer to that question is fine!

Wishitsnows · 22/03/2021 02:08

I put my sex as female and my gender as female. Should I have ignored the second question? The reason I did not was I didn't want them to think that my gender didn't match my sex as I can't change it. Should I have left it blank to highlight the point?

NiceGerbil · 22/03/2021 02:01

I think in the end there's no 'right' answer.

I do not identify with a gender. I feel genuinely have no internal gender ID. Nor does DH.

Agender/ genderfree etc if they insist. So we are happily trans (by the genuine definition).

PotholeHellhole · 22/03/2021 01:56

Mimmybirthingparent simultaneously telling people to put what they like in the sex box and complaining about long waiting lists. Confused

And complaining about mumsnet. I won't delude myself that the penny will drop for her when she reads this post.

Cwenthryth · 21/03/2021 22:15

Here’s previous discussion too

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4175161-If-you-don-t-have-a-gender-identity-how-to-answer-the-census

I just didn’t feel right ignoring the question and leaving it blank. It felt like complying with exclusion. So I haven’t exactly answered it but have made my position clear. They’ll probably just ignore my “answer” anyway but it’s there for posterity now.

Cwenthryth · 21/03/2021 22:11

I drew green and purple “N” and “A” in the two boxes for yes/no, wrote “I DO NOT HAVE ONE” for gender identity, made my own tick box for “no gender identity” under that and annotated around it all that the question is flawed and I reject gender as harmful stereotypes.

OH left it blank. He did put Jedi for religion. I told him that 2001 called and wanted it’s joke back.

jellybe · 21/03/2021 22:01

@TheRabbitOfCaerbannog

Ah, my bad
Yeah sorry didn't make that clear I meant the screen shot from Twitter.
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SirSamuelVimes · 21/03/2021 21:31

Just filled my paper copy in. Left gender question blank. Sending the letter from Sex in the Census (had to write out by hand because I don't have a printer - fuck me, it's long!) which while mostly focused on the use of the sex data also explains why I haven't answered the gender identity question.

I also enjoyed recording my sexuality as "superstraight". DH did his the same way.

Luckily my dds are too young so I didn't have to deal with the gender crap for them anyway.

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 21/03/2021 20:45

Ah, my bad

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/03/2021 20:44

I think @jellybe was suggesting that Mmmm*m was encouraging people to fill the census in incorrectly.

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 21/03/2021 20:18

@jellybe

Isn't there some sort of law against purposely filling in the census incorrectly?
If you don't have a gender identity it's not filling it incorrectly to leave that blank and to explain your reasons why. I'm not going to be manipulated into professing to be something I'm not by an ideologically captured arm of the government. Not responding to a question is quite different to claiming to be of the opposite biological sex.
InthekeyofG · 21/03/2021 20:03

Gender question- I put No gender in other

jellybe · 21/03/2021 17:32

Isn't there some sort of law against purposely filling in the census incorrectly?

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MrsWooster · 21/03/2021 17:10

Mimmybirthingparent (genius, btw) needs to be accepting responsibility when funding for transpeople vanishes due to lack of numbers.

gardenbird48 · 21/03/2021 16:53

Oops, screenshot.

Census 2021
gardenbird48 · 21/03/2021 16:53

Mimmybirthingparent still encouraging people to complete the sex question incorrectly Hmm

On the upside it could result in more sex based services for women I guess?

BettyFilous · 21/03/2021 15:45

I made use of the comments box too. It was cathartic.

howard97A · 21/03/2021 15:29

There is an invitation to provide feedback. Mine was:

" A full inquiry is needed into this travesty: why did the ONS squander public funds and its own reputation? And what is the relationship between its senior team and activists?"

(Janice Turner in The Times 20th March)

I hope Sir Ian will find the courage to attempt a response

ScribblingPixie · 21/03/2021 15:01

I left it blank then added a note in the feedback to say why.

3beesinmybonnet · 21/03/2021 14:20

I waffled a bit but basically said in the comments box at the end that I would've liked a space to say why I hadn't answered which is because I don't identify with a gender. I have a sex which is female.

ValancyRedfern · 21/03/2021 13:59

Letter to print out and send here: sexinthecensus.org/oncensusnight/

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 21/03/2021 13:58

👏👏👏

Sophoclesthefox · 21/03/2021 13:53

Left it blank. Filled it in together with husband, who also left it blank, then went to do something else as I thought we’d finished. I came back ten minutes later to find him furiously typing a gender critical essay in the comments box on the Judicial Review and how scandalised he was at the dishonesty, the shoddy approach to data integrity, and the waste of taxpayers money in defending the case Grin I love him very much.

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