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This never happens - man jailed for rape and attempted rape in women’s toilets

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IDanielRadcliffe · 17/03/2021 18:14

news.sky.com/story/former-bristol-city-footballer-who-targeted-women-in-nightclubs-jailed-for-rape-offences-12248824

“He has on two separate occasions subjected women to violent acts in what should be a safe and private space.”

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bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 17/03/2021 23:09

@midgedude

A rape in the ladies will be more easy to prosecute than one in mixed facilities as it's clear that a man has no place in the ladies
Yes, and a rape in the ladies will be easier to prevent than one in a mixed loo, because a man seen entering the ladies can be challenged by a bystander and reported to management before he commits the rape. Unless you work or study at any of several UK unis, where new trans policies prohibit you from challenging someone who appears to be in the wrong loo Angry Gin
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IDanielRadcliffe · 17/03/2021 19:59

Vote I meant it in the spirit of the ‘This will never happen’ threads - as in if Self ID became legislation. I didn’t explain that though Blush

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread

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Voteinvain · 17/03/2021 19:23

I can’t remember anyone ever saying ‘this never happens’ about predatory males attacking women in toilets? Because it happens. Some of us know this only too well. Thank God they caught him - 10 years is at the higher end of jail terms at least. No doubt Sisters Uncut will be campaigning for his release though along with everyone else in prisons. But again, you’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re lumping this under ‘this never happens’.

midgedude · 17/03/2021 19:08

A rape in the ladies will be more easy to prosecute than one in mixed facilities as it's clear that a man has no place in the ladies

Xpectations · 17/03/2021 18:54

@Doyoumind

They will just say this shows that if a man wants to attack a woman he can and he doesn't need to identify as a woman to do so.

Glad he's been caught and sentenced though.

It’s a deflection though, because the objection is to male people, regardless of their gender identity. Because both men and transwomen have sexually assaulted females in women’s facilities.
Kattenzz · 17/03/2021 18:42

@EsmaCannonball

Some TRAs will see this and say, 'You see? You have women's toilets and men still attack you anyway. Hah! Gotcha!' I like to call this the 'people will commit murders anyway, so let's legalise guns' argument.
Ugh that's so true, and sad Sad
Juliesipadwillcallyouback · 17/03/2021 18:31

Yes the old 'look ladies, you're gonna get raped anyway, so we might as well get rid of any safeguards that are in place, and create huge loopholes which make it easier for men to gain access to your spaces' argument.

It's a bit like saying that because occasionally people slip through the DBS check net, we might as well just do away with them altogether. It's such a crap argument, I can't believe it still gets rolled out so frequently!

Doyoumind · 17/03/2021 18:25

Cross post with Esma.

Doyoumind · 17/03/2021 18:25

They will just say this shows that if a man wants to attack a woman he can and he doesn't need to identify as a woman to do so.

Glad he's been caught and sentenced though.

EsmaCannonball · 17/03/2021 18:24

Some TRAs will see this and say, 'You see? You have women's toilets and men still attack you anyway. Hah! Gotcha!' I like to call this the 'people will commit murders anyway, so let's legalise guns' argument.