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Crispin Blunt MP ordered to apologise for breach of parliamentary rules over attempt to make secret deal on self-ID

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OvaHere · 07/03/2021 11:50

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/crispin-blunt-mp-ordered-to-apologise-for-breach-of-parliamentary-rules-over-attempt-to-make-secret-deal-on-self-id/

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FindTheTruth · 07/03/2021 14:21

@Clymene

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1307304/Wife-traumatised-Tory-MP-Crispin-Blunt-admits-Im-gay.html

Blunt's wife and children were apparently as surprised as the rest of the world when he announced he was gay.

Used her. Maybe she's on here.

But while Blunt's confession has torn his family apart, politically, one insider described it as 'the best move he's made since he became an MP'

what I don't understand is, how does a man come out as gay at age 50 and decide to go all in for queer theory gender ideology. I don't get it. he realises he's same-sex attracted at 50 and then pushes Stonewall version (that's homophobic) campaigning to remove sexual orientation from the equality act and remove sex based exemptions. What is it with these men?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2021 14:16

Does anyone know what The Baring Foundation's interest is in this? Just corporate philanthropy or something more?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/03/2021 14:11

Oh those names! Makes some more sense if her behaviour on the Maternity bill!

FindTheTruth · 07/03/2021 14:11

❤️rabbit, roz, FWRs.

strident women and mumsnet handbook = more than a match for these fuckers

Clymene · 07/03/2021 14:08

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1307304/Wife-traumatised-Tory-MP-Crispin-Blunt-admits-Im-gay.html

Blunt's wife and children were apparently as surprised as the rest of the world when he announced he was gay.

rabbitwoman · 07/03/2021 14:04

You know what though? All this secrecy and planning and finance and they did not get self ID passed.

That's the mumsnet handbook, that is!

RozWatching · 07/03/2021 14:04

@FindTheTruth

“It was my judgement that if this paper could be communicated to the Government privately, and as representing a wide collective agreement, they would be more likely to adopt it as theirs”

he's not very bright is he?

He is a very unpleasant man but yes, I think that's the main problem with him. The way he waded in saying 'I've been reading about this since summer' (presumably thinking that he was way ahead of us 'strident women') was cringeworthy to say the least.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2021 13:52

Kaleidoscope Trust, you say?

Wondered where I had heard it mentioned very recently and just remembered it was on the MoJ thread in the context of John Bercow disallowing an urgent question on Karen White and trans prisoners which always struck me as odd.

Well I never.

OvaHere · 07/03/2021 13:44

Bercow is a hypocrite of the highest order considering all the noise he made about democratic processes re Brexit.

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FindTheTruth · 07/03/2021 13:32

John Bercow was the president of Kaleidoscope Trust.

The dots are beginning to join up...

Fuck. So the speaker of the house of commons enforced #nodebate How dare he. No right. No right to do this in a democracy. That was in 2018 and women have been assaulted.

John Bercow: 'sex pest', ridicules GC Women, friend of Pink News & Edward Lord who refused UQ about prison policy following Karen White Case. Unconnected?

OvaHere · 07/03/2021 13:23

@FindTheTruth

Thanks OP. the research quoted in the APPG position paper, do you know anything about that? Research by Cambridge University and Stonewall (2017)
No sorry. I just posted it here after seeing it on twitter. I have no affiliation to the Sex Matters org. Maya Forstater might know, she pops on here from time to time.
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ANewCreation · 07/03/2021 13:20

Kaleidoscope Trust, you say?

Wondered where I had heard it mentioned very recently and just remembered it was on the MoJ thread in the context of John Bercow disallowing an urgent question on Karen White and trans prisoners which always struck me as odd.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/if-mps-can-t-debate-a-rapist-in-a-woman-s-jail-politics-has-failed

John Bercow was the president of Kaleidoscope Trust.

The dots are beginning to join up...

Shedbuilder · 07/03/2021 13:19

This might be the moment to publicise Conservatives for Women:

conservativesforwomen.org

As a lifelong Labour supporter that's something I never thought I'd do. In fact after reading their manifesto my partner and I (lesbian couple) are having a serious discussion about whether we can vote Conservative in May. We won't vote for Labour or the Lib Dems or the Greens. Do we spoil our ballots or do we actually try to make sure the Conservatives get in so as to prevent Labour et al having power?

FindTheTruth · 07/03/2021 13:17

cold eyes

Shedbuilder · 07/03/2021 13:13

@Signalbox

but said GIDS should be exempt from litigation

This is rather telling. It's finally dawned on them that there will be a tidal wave of litigation at some point.

Yup: it acknowledges that they know there is damage being done and disaster looming, but they're still pushing for it. It's deeply cynical — surely almost criminal? This really gives them away.

Thanks for the heads-up on Blunt's background. I'd love to hear Mrs Blunt's side of the story.

FindTheTruth · 07/03/2021 13:12

“It was my judgement that if this paper could be communicated to the Government privately, and as representing a wide collective agreement, they would be more likely to adopt it as theirs”

he's not very bright is he?

FindTheTruth · 07/03/2021 13:10

The APPG’s Officers are Crispin Blunt MP, Baroness Barker, Lord Cashman, Peter Kyle MP, Stewart McDonald MP and Lord Collins

I don't understand why the APPG was only made up of queer theory stonewall view of the world. or why these people push queer theory instead of grass roots LBGT. or why they bully ordinary LGB and T.

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 07/03/2021 13:07

Thanks for this OP. This is fantastic! Sunlight, sunlight, sunlight.

FindTheTruth · 07/03/2021 13:04

Thanks OP. the research quoted in the APPG position paper, do you know anything about that? Research by Cambridge University and Stonewall (2017)

highame · 07/03/2021 13:01

I am so, so delighted, I can't believe this. This is the best news ever (except for all the other pieces of good news we've had recently)

In my submission to the Government Equalities Office, I wrote a great long list of why the Office was unfit for purpose and could not be trusted to look out for women's rights. Government departments did not appear to be acting within the standards by which government officials must adhere

I also strongly criticised Crispin Blunt and Caroline Noakes for their treatment of women who held GC views and felt their actions undermined trust in the principles of Standards in Public Life.

I also copied the piece to Liz Truss and my MP

334bu · 07/03/2021 12:54

Find it interesting that this group advocating for medical intervention for minors as Mr Blunt seems to understand that we shouldn't treat young criminals as adults. Cognitive dissonance?
www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/18-year-olds-would-be-treated-as-children-under-proposed-court-bill/5107540.article

Signalbox · 07/03/2021 12:53

but said GIDS should be exempt from litigation

This is rather telling. It's finally dawned on them that there will be a tidal wave of litigation at some point.

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 07/03/2021 12:50

[quote OvaHere]You can sign the letter calling for a public enquiry into policy capture here.

sex-matters.org/take-action/sign-our-letter/[/quote]
Thanks for this

gardenbird48 · 07/03/2021 12:37

The Standards Commissioner also pulled up the group for rebranding the APPG “portcullis” logo with rainbow stripes. She ordered that it should be changed back to the standard black and white symbol used by all other APPGs.

oops!!

Igmum · 07/03/2021 12:36

Thanks for sharing this OP. A very important issue and a clear example of policy capture. I've signed the petition