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Solidarity in Aldi today!

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JaneyHenderson · 13/02/2021 18:08

This is my first thread in a very long time but I wanted to share the uplifting and fabulous experience I had today in Aldi😂

I reached 'peak' during the last lockdown and lurk regularly on here while trying to make sense of the madness.
DH is supportive to a degree but very nervous of me being vocal about my GC views as we are both teachers. I am a middle leader in a secondary school and he worries about me getting sackedConfused
So I can't discuss this much IRL.

Anyway, queing outside Aldi today and saw a woman a few people ahead of me with a 'Woman
Noun
adult human female' tote bag. I was thrilled and as soon as there was an opportunity (by the fruit and vegWink) I told her I liked her bag and that I knew what it meant.
She said I had made her day; I replied I she had made mine. Then she said 'Solidarity sister and see you on the next march'
We went on our separate ways but bloody hell it was brilliant. To vocalise it and be recognised. Felt a bit emotional and even now re-writing it, am a bit teary.

Just wanted to share. It was wonderful.

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ArabellaScott · 14/02/2021 22:38

I realise I'm sounding a bit pathetic but this is what worries me. I get flustered and embarrassed easily and would struggle to not leg it out the cafe. Then onlookers would assume by my lack of response that the slogan was not a good one and I'd do the cause more harm than good confused

I hate feeling like this, it makes me do cross at myself when so many of you are proper warriors.

LangShip, I feel like this often, too.

But honestly, you are still able to feel vulnerable and question your motives, to be upset or not like confrontation - doesn't mean you are not able to help. Bear in mind that women have been threatened with the loss of their job for 'liking' Tweets. Tiny things matter, too. This is a very, very grassroots movement. It's made up of lots and lots of ordinary women making tiny gestures, flinging fivers at court cases, wearing pin badges, writing to their MPs, sharing social media posts, asking questions, (while simultaneously working day jobs, raising families, caring, home-fucking-schooling, I might add) and generally, in whatever quiet or loud or stumbling way they can saying 'no' to the oppression of women and girls. It all makes a difference. Brew

ArabellaScott · 14/02/2021 22:25

@legalseagull

She's brave! I live in Brighton - If I wore that bag I'd be stoned to death with avocados.
Grin
littlbrowndog · 14/02/2021 22:05

@HashtagLurky

Secondary teacher and radical feminist. Everyone knows where I stand. School is deep in with Stonewall but the vast majority of our kids are not in line with the mantras (they find the biology denial risible). A sign of hope from lockdown is that fewer young lesbians are declaring trans identity this year: social contagion is difficult when they're at home. Haven't spotted any email pronoun sign-offs yet and despite many regular staff training events, the pronoun declaration game has never been initiated.

I'm on the vulnerable children side of education: our Safeguarding training is rigorous and thorough. I think this is why the staff are so sceptical and so grounded. I am open on my views and have had only one unpleasant encounter with the rainbow haired activists in school - over sex-work-is-work, which I refused to concede. I have not met any pushback from discrete one-to-ones with fellow staff - if anything, I've rarely identified anyone enthusiastically mouthing the mantra.

Courage, women. In the real world of shared material reality, GC ideas are prevalent!

Yeah. Hard when you are not with your gang of social contagion

Great work

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 14/02/2021 21:55

@TheFleegleHasLanded

I recall the women handing out Fair Play for Women leaflets a couple of years ago were accused of being the ‘street violence wing’ of the gender critical movement Shock Grin Wink
Maybe it was the scary red T-shirts Grin.

I remember the TRAs being furious with one woman who told people in her community what was going on because she lived on Moss Side & they thought that meant she & all her neighbours must be thugs.

TheFleegleHasLanded · 14/02/2021 21:11

I recall the women handing out Fair Play for Women leaflets a couple of years ago were accused of being the ‘street violence wing’ of the gender critical movement Shock Grin Wink

ChattyLion · 14/02/2021 21:00

I’ve heard people talk about ‘militant’ feminists when in the context they just meant radfems. They make it sound like we have uniforms and go out on the weekend on exercises Hmm

HashtagLurky · 14/02/2021 20:27

Secondary teacher and radical feminist. Everyone knows where I stand. School is deep in with Stonewall but the vast majority of our kids are not in line with the mantras (they find the biology denial risible). A sign of hope from lockdown is that fewer young lesbians are declaring trans identity this year: social contagion is difficult when they're at home. Haven't spotted any email pronoun sign-offs yet and despite many regular staff training events, the pronoun declaration game has never been initiated.

I'm on the vulnerable children side of education: our Safeguarding training is rigorous and thorough. I think this is why the staff are so sceptical and so grounded. I am open on my views and have had only one unpleasant encounter with the rainbow haired activists in school - over sex-work-is-work, which I refused to concede. I have not met any pushback from discrete one-to-ones with fellow staff - if anything, I've rarely identified anyone enthusiastically mouthing the mantra.

Courage, women. In the real world of shared material reality, GC ideas are prevalent!

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 14/02/2021 20:08

[quote ArabellaScott]If we're on the subject of T-shirts, I love this one:

wildwomynworkshop.com/store/t-shirts/this-witch-doesnt-burn-feminist-t-shirt/[/quote]
As worn by JK Rowling! mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1308417985753870336?lang=en

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 14/02/2021 19:57

@FamilyOfAliens

We're not the paramilitary wing of the women's rights movement

I am Grin

Ssh.
FamilyOfAliens · 14/02/2021 19:49

We're not the paramilitary wing of the women's rights movement

I am Grin

EachandEveryone · 14/02/2021 19:16

I will get the bag, though.

EachandEveryone · 14/02/2021 19:16

Nursing is just as bed you absolutely have to watch every word even though the majority of us are women and spen all our shifts supporting other women who are only in hospital doing what only a woman can naturally do 😃

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 14/02/2021 19:14

I'm not sure what a 'radical' feminist is but I'm pretty sure I'm not one - I just really detest being gaslighted and bullied

It means radical in the sense of 'at the root of', not in the sense of 'extreme'. We're not the paramilitary wing of the women's rights movement Wink

Radical feminists believe that women (and children and many men) suffer because society is fundamentally set up in a way that gives men power over women.

Rockinmomma · 14/02/2021 19:08

I’ve been looking at the t shirts for ages and just bought one thanks to the solidarity I’ve seen here, thanks ladies!
Seriously considering coming out as GC on fb, only a small group of friends and I’m not bothered what anyone thinks of me either

SirSamuelVimes · 14/02/2021 18:59

@PamDenick

I've just a horrible feeling it won't be long before this thread is pulled...
Perhaps. But look at how many eyes are newly opened.
Mockolate · 14/02/2021 18:59

“I like the idea of the definition of woman T shirts but how do they actually help when some men say they feel like a female ?”

They don't.
Because they're a t-shirt that says I'm a woman and you're not, and people seem to like wearing them out to tell others that and also to solidarity with each other when out and about if they see like minded people.

PamDenick · 14/02/2021 18:51

I've just a horrible feeling it won't be long before this thread is pulled...

Wearywithteens · 14/02/2021 18:45

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Impatiens · 14/02/2021 18:31

I’m guessing I would be a TERF because I would exclude born males from woman only spaces. I’m not sure that makes me radical though. I’m guessing TERF is used by “their” side rather than ours?

Yes, it's used by trans-activists as a slur tho I understand it originated in a group of feminists and some gc ppl use it about themselves as a way of defusing the slur. I'm not sure what a 'radical' feminist is but I'm pretty sure I'm not one - I just really detest being gaslighted and bullied.

I like the idea of the definition of woman T shirts but how do they actually help when some men say they feel like a female ?

They can say they feel anything they like, but they'll never meet the definition. If you've got a Gender Recognition Certificate, you're allowed to have your birth certificate changed so it says you were born female not male! (doesn't change your biology tho..)

Thewinterofdiscontent · 14/02/2021 18:14

I find all the terms confusing because they are all so loaded. I’m guessing I would be a TERF because I would exclude born males from woman only spaces. I’m not sure that makes me radical though. I’m guessing TERF is used by “their” side rather than ours?

I like the idea of the definition of woman T shirts but how do they actually help when some men say they feel like a female ? Why isn’t more said about separating gender from sex? I mean that benefits us all. I’d love not to be waxing my tash every three days and I’d certainly like not to have my worth as a woman judged on it.
If you have XY chromosomes, it matters not one jot if you have hormones or remove your penis.For the purposes of medicine at least you can only ever be male? If you still have a penis then no one should be calling you a woman.

Bluesername · 14/02/2021 18:14

Thanks for the links Sunset

malloo · 14/02/2021 18:06

This made me smile, thanks OP. I'm gradually working up to outing myself as GC in real life, I'm now thinking a bag could be the perfect next step!

ArabellaScott · 14/02/2021 18:00

If we're on the subject of T-shirts, I love this one:

wildwomynworkshop.com/store/t-shirts/this-witch-doesnt-burn-feminist-t-shirt/

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 14/02/2021 17:48

@LimpLettice

I recognised and connected with Maya Forstater coz of her AHF hoodie. So heartening to see them out and about. I've seen a few TW have a penis stickers not planted by me, too, which made my week Smile
I was in the women’s toilets in an East London pub I’d never been to before & suddenly spotted an AHF sticker. It made my day.
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