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GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 2020-12-04T20:51:59+00:00

I follow Jo on Twitter and feel that the GoodLaw project is a needed and good thing when it comes to holding ministers/gov spending to account. He seems to take refuge in the rule of law and facts .... so, so WHY after the recent ruling on puberty blockers is he tweeting and retweeting Trans folk who are sharing (in emotive and extra detail) their experience post ruling. What his deal?? What’s his skin in the game? Looked through some old tweets and he really seems to have come down hard against women’s rights. Ca anyone explain his deal here?

Datun · 12/12/2020 13:31

And I just want to add, that the women who will be in most affected by this ideology, are those who have no power. In rape refuges, prison, homeless shelters, psychiatric wards.

All these women are being gaslit.

It's all women Jolyon. All of them.

Datun · 12/12/2020 13:28

@Forgotthebins

The erasure of women including Linda Bellos, Allison Bailey or indeed Kiera Bell, in that comment about “white posh women” is astonishing. It is almost like, when women of colour speak, Maugham and his ilk neither see nor hear them...

Indeed. It's astonishingly blind.

This entire episode was precipitated by Keira Bell, for fuck's sake. The opposite of the bogey women he is inventing.

But, I've heard this refrain, over and over. Women with a platform, women with voice, women with power or money, women who can articulate, those are not the women to be heard.

The women to be heard are those with no power, no money, no platform, no articulation no voice, and as I've said before, no chance.

He only wants to listen to the women he can't hear.

Funny that.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/12/2020 12:24

its fucking outrageous- i just cant...

EwwSprouts · 12/12/2020 12:20

Hulo If it looks like a pattern... not seen or patronised?

Hulo · 12/12/2020 11:51

Exactly. Speaking as a woman of colour I'm sick of it. However, I note that while many of my white colleagues have blocked I have not. Maybe he truly doesn't see us. I also remain unblocked by Owen Jones and Amnesty Colm

Forgotthebins · 12/12/2020 11:44

The erasure of women including Linda Bellos, Allison Bailey or indeed Kiera Bell, in that comment about “white posh women” is astonishing. It is almost like, when women of colour speak, Maugham and his ilk neither see nor hear them...

Helmetbymidnight · 12/12/2020 10:40

a phalanx of wealthy, white, middle-class cis women

Its astonishing isn't it.

I mean, he is the epitome of the wealthy, white, middle-class 'cis' man - yet he has decided thats the unverified/unevidenced accusation he wants to sling.

With a military term thrown in. I mean What the actual fuck.

Clymene · 12/12/2020 10:38

It's DARVO in action. A bunch of women trying to stop children being driven down a path of lifelong infertility and medication and we're the baddies?

And if you're arguing for your child to be put into a state of adult prepubescence, I am questioning your parenting. Sorry Fiona.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/12/2020 10:32

Oh wow, Fiona Millar responded to this tweet on Jolyon's timeline: This is one of the most upsetting aspects of being mother to a trans child - an army of white, posh, loud, women, who are hostile to my family & make hideous allegations about my parenting having not met us once. The only fact they know about my family is that my son is trans.

I did think she was more intelligent than that.

So now women are now not only unjustifiably being called white cis and posh - but also called 'phalanx' and 'army'.

Honestly, fuck them.

nancywhisky · 12/12/2020 10:28

He sounds unhinged.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/12/2020 10:24

The most vociferous, high-profile and politically influential anti-trans group has turned out not to be the well-funded religious right or the supporters of Nigel Farage but a phalanx of wealthy, white, middle-class cis women (of whom billionaire J.K. Rowling is queen).

Jolyon still going on with his women-hate and his untruths.

SophocIestheFox · 12/12/2020 09:46

Even as Twitter bonkersness goes, that really is bonkers.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/12/2020 09:44

The Holocaust denial accusation was bizarre - a deliberate attempt to throw mud and hope it sticks ?
I am so disappointed in the response from Plaid towards HMJ . Nothing it that retweet could possibly be construed as “transphobia”. Making her apologise was disgraceful.

OldCrone · 12/12/2020 09:40

@Passmeabottlemrjones

I know it's just blatant anti-semitism isn't it? Appropriating the holocaust in this way? A Jewish woman is saying 'hang on, this is seriously not ok' and a politician gets a bollocking for standing with that woman? Because.... Trans?

It's even worse than that. Helen Mary Jones has been accused of holocaust denial by some idiots on twitter. For supporting a Jewish woman who was offended by someone comparing a High Court ruling to the holocaust. I posted some screenshots on the other thread.

You couldn't make it up.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/12/2020 09:24

@Passmeabottlemrjones

I know it's just blatant anti-semitism isn't it? Appropriating the holocaust in this way? A Jewish woman is saying 'hang on, this is seriously not ok' and a politician gets a bollocking for standing with that woman? Because.... Trans?

Yes, this.

Passmeabottlemrjones · 12/12/2020 09:10

I know it's just blatant anti-semitism isn't it? Appropriating the holocaust in this way? A Jewish woman is saying 'hang on, this is seriously not ok' and a politician gets a bollocking for standing with that woman? Because.... Trans?

Defaultname · 11/12/2020 22:53

@Passmeabottlemrjones

OMG, Whaaaaa?! Cannot believe that BBC article!

"Nicholas James, a member of Plaid Cymru from Wrexham since 2015, said he had cancelled his membership saying the retweet by the member of the Senedd (MS) for Mid and West Wales was "the final straw".

It's the final straw,man, the final straw! (Man.).

RealityNotEssentialism · 11/12/2020 21:14

It’s disgusting that there isn’t more public outrage at the blatant anti-semitism on show.

Also saw this. Words fail me.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/12/2020 19:45

That Plaid Cymru stuff is ridiculous. FFS.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 11/12/2020 19:22

@Ereshkigalangcleg

If it doesn't consider 51% of the population as a discrete group with specific disadvantages and needs, then it isn't a good idea.

Always this

Passmeabottlemrjones · 11/12/2020 19:02

OMG, Whaaaaa?! Cannot believe that BBC article!

OldCrone · 11/12/2020 17:25

The fallout from JM's tweet about the holocaust continues.

Helen Mary Jones of Plaid Cymru is currently getting the witchburning treatment for a retweet of Rosa Freedman's tweet responding to JM (see screenshot).

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55259522#

Rosa Freedman has written to the BBC to complain about this article.

twitter.com/GoonerProf/status/1337418942223093762

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4103049-Support-Plaid-Cymru-MP-Helen-Mary-Jones

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/12/2020 17:16

If it doesn't consider 51% of the population as a discrete group with specific disadvantages and needs, then it isn't a good idea.

SophocIestheFox · 11/12/2020 16:50

Can’t see the quotation, nauticant, but I think I knew that Crenshaw had gone down that route. Like so many things in life, it started out as a good idea, then...stuff happened.

nauticant · 11/12/2020 16:47

Intersectionality in feminism never has to intersect with penis for fucks sake.

This might come as a real disappointment but according to Kimberlé Crenshaw it does:

books.google.co.uk/books?id=CLlaDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA58&lpg=PA58&dq=%22intersectionality+is+an+analytic+sensibility%22+%22trans+women+within+feminist+movements%22&source=bl&ots=i5RBxHIOo3&sig=ACfU3U0ngTm6BsopigQl0f16efReG54C1Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjoyuad-8XtAhVuQxUIHRZ9DREQ6AEwFHoECCMQAg#v=onepage&q=%22intersectionality%20is%20an%20analytic%20sensibility%22%20%22trans%20women%20within%20feminist%20movements%22&f=false

See the paragraph "Intersectionality is an analytic sensibility" then "trans women within feminist movements".