Fully clothed demo(s) for women's sex based rights

[quote highame]@EyesOpening

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thank you

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3252624--ManFriday-background-Speech-by-Hannah-Clarke

Hope this works @EyesOpening

just practising

On the 24 hour social media thing it could be across them all, whichever you are on, using one single hashtag (plus others of your choice) using all the examples already thrown up on here - facts, definitions of EA, personal stories etc etc. Yes of course it will get hijacked, they always do, but it won't mean it will be ineffective or diluted. It might spark conversations, online and in real life and show strength of feeling.

As opposed to those whose rights actually are/have been rolled back. Who I'll name clearly as women and girls. Human females.

Not sure I'm allowed to reference whose rights are supposedly being 'rolled back' (in some inexplicable, indefinable way).

Highlighting what the EA actually says is a great idea. We need to shine the truth in to what is actually happening and what the law really says- challenge the 'rolling back rights' nonsense rhetoric that's being parroted.

For something social media based - maybe posting the Equality Act. It may serve as a reminder that women do have sex based rights that are being taken away/threatened. And also that gender is not a protected characteristic, but gender reassignment is.

@EyesOpening

Just bumped one of the threads for you to read.

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So the Tokyo Olympics Women's Marathon was scheduled for the 8th August. (8th of the 8th).

A day of women's sporting events?

If there was a demo close to me I would go. I am ready to be out on this. I couldn't get to London easily though. If there was one in my region I would go.

We're told that we "weaponise our trauma".

The truth of the situation is that many women never report DV, rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment. Reasons due to grooming, culture of blame or shame, retraumatising by police and courts, police attitude, the cases that won't be sent to court for various reasons, culture of disbelief, safety risk with violent partner, etc.

(Can't find the link but someone posted a good essay that said contrary to popular belief, male victims of these types of crimes are more likely to report to the police.)

Transphobic hate crimes are on the up. In reality this means situations like Sarah Phillimore having a police file on her due to having the audacity to tweet about biological truth in her own name. Women don't report, AND misogyny is not even a hate crime.

I am sick of reading false statistics gathered in a unfairly biased system. How can we be "weaponising our abuse" when so much goes unreported? I wonder about making a collation of all the unreported male pattern crimes we've experienced but never reported?

We need Freddy Flintoff making a guest appearance for a women's cricket team the next time they play Kent....

Not that specifically but something along those lines.

What about Sports Days, country wide..............men against women, boys against girls? This would have to be organised enough so that participation would be known and wouldn't end up being an embarrassment

I agree with Errol. Travelling to London for a mass gathering isn't something I'd be willing to do right now and unfortunately, I also agree that activism via social media is challenging given that the status quo is stonewall rules. Challenging, though not necessarily impossible.

I also think even if a million of us demonstrated, the BBC and other main news channels would ignore it.

The campaigns that have taken off this year have had a feel good element, Captain Tom Moore & clap for carers couldn't be ignored.

So is there something we do that will get picked up by various media outlets?

Could something around women's sport work? Hundreds of separate events in multiple locations?

Let's put our many heads together.

Have just been back to look at the Man Friday stuff. That was really good, had no knowledge of it. Lock down obviously got in the way but that's the sort of thing that gets the imagination fired up!

What is it you want a march to do? If it's to bring women together and raise morale then maybe, but only if a lot show up. But if it's to raise public awareness, then I'm doubtful. 'Retain Sex based rights and spaces' doesn't exactly trip off the tongue. Most people wouldn't know what we were talking about.
I also think of marching and shouting as a very male thing.
I think we need to be smarter than that. A couple of posters (might have been on the naked demo thread) suggested Man Friday style activities. A bit of imagination and humour can get the message across much more effectively and don't require massive numbers.

I'm definitely up for a march and I'll even make a placard!! Never marched for a cause in my puff but this one I feel so strongly about. I'm also trying to get some GC friends together for Posie's Speakers Corner on 30th August. I'm absolutely fuming about what's going on, raging in fact, so I need an outlet and a march would be ideal. 👍

twitter is already entrenched. i would suggest a facebook campaign to reach the people who know less about whats going on.

A combination of several methods is always good, and women can pick and choose which activities suit them best.

Keep writing to MPs / MSPs, keep a close eye on policies used in schools, flag up areas where gender or gender identity is being substituted for sex. All of the political parties are having an internal struggle, so you might find it worthwhile to join or rejoin a party and help influence policy by voting for candidates that are willing to acknowledge and protect women's sex-based rights.

Keep an eye out for consultations and other upcoming legislative changes. Send in your submissions.

Sign up to newsletters of various women's groups so you can stay informed of upcoming events or gatherings. I think Standing for Women have planned more events at Speaker's Corner in London over the coming weeks, so go along and show your support - get talking to the other women there. Make in-person connections that seem trustworthy.

Maybe you will discover a few other women who live in the same area as you. Keep in touch and plan some local actions together - like print some leaflets or make some posters / placards and speak to passers-by if you feel up to the challenge. In-person activism is so much more effective. Talking to someone face-to-face is more likely to get them to engage. The vast majority of the public are unaware and aren't going to be on twitter. You might have some very productive conversations, but might also encounter some rude people. All part of the process of trying to engage with people on a difficult and complex topic.

If you're feeling a bit disobedient, you can leave stickers or leaflets around.

Carry on doing whatever can be done (PP upthread have valid suggestions)?

Any sort of physical demo requiring both travelling and the possibility of too-close contact is simply irresponsible. Imo most women are too sensible to do that (partly because we take family responsibilities seriously) and it'd be a poor turnout.

Twitter isn't a serious medium and is far from a neutral platform. I suspect any attempt by women to use it would be frustrated by blocks, bans etc.

Sorry if this sounds negative but if something is touted as a big event it has to work. And for that reason, planning it on a public, 'monitored' forum such as MN probably isn't too wise.m