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Showing that feminists don't all hate heterosexual male sexuality

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IronPyrites · 06/07/2020 22:06

OK so I am talking about consensual adult sexuality only.

I think there is a feeling, imo an incorrect one, but still a feeling, among many straight men that feminism wants to impose celibacy on all straight men, and hates and derides any expression of male sexuality.
Now, while I think this is unfounded, I wonder sometimes if there is any mileage in perhaps showing some compassion for the difficulties that many straight men encounter in their personal lives in general, and perhaps even that the pain of sexual or romantic frustration is no less real (and perhaps heightened by societal expectations of the straight male stud) for this group of people than anyone else. I have nothing but contempt for the so-called incels who clearly despise and feel entitled to women, and for men who express disdain for and behave badly to women in other ways, but I do think it may do some good to counter the message that you sometimes hear that feminism is anti-men, and showing that there is probably a societal bias against and fear of male sexuality in general. I hope you understand what I mean.

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HeistSociety · 07/07/2020 10:49

BBC World Service had a program last night about the benefits of barefoot running, and actually, feet are really interesting, especially when you can't sleep at 2 in the morning.

My male sexuality pinnacle is Bowie in drag in the Boys Keep Swinging video.

Who knew the road to tervenhood could begin in such an unlikely place?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/07/2020 10:48

I hope they’re not relying on the International Lesbian Cult for supply. I hear their delivery is very unreliable.

Should have ordered via Amazon tbh, they're evil but very reliable.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 07/07/2020 10:47

one thing about us ladies, we can make do and mend. we've repurposed a 'let's talk about the sad lives of men' thread into one about comfortable shoes and cake wit booze in, two of the great pillars of a civilised society

this is my absolute favourite repurposed thread and explains why I luffs MN with quite the passion I feel

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/AMA/3713360-Im-a-masochistic-submissive-and-live-with-my-sadistic-Sir-AMA

Person trying to use others to get their jollies: Let's talk about me and my sex life!

Mumsnet: would you rather have chopsticks for fingers or rollerblades for feet?

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 07/07/2020 10:45

I’m wearing muddy gumboots so clearly the only laying I’ll be doing anytime soon is agricultural pipe.

I listened to an interview Posy Parker did with Glinner via podcast this afternoon and he made a comment about the current situation and how the jokes are just lying there, waiting.

He’s not wrong.

I hear Clarks have an offer of 1 free lesbian wife with every 2 pairs of brogues, too, get your skates on ladies.

I hope they’re not relying on the International Lesbian Cult for supply. I hear their delivery is very unreliable.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/07/2020 10:44

Me too, Heist. Not sure if OP would approve of my expressing my enthusiasm for pretty boys in eyeliner, or if they'd even include men like that in their concept of male sexuality. Me, I'm a simple soul - if it has a penis and the desire to shag someone then it's a man expressing male sexuality, which I may or may not approve of, depending.

Also gotta love MN - come for the discussion and the snark, stay for the recipes and friendly warnings about the health of your back.

HeistSociety · 07/07/2020 10:41

Even though straight, I'm not a wild appreciator of manly male sexuality. Give me an androgyne any day...ironically!

Is it wrong that I've started to feel an affection for this thread and it's title? It's so earnest and old fashioned. And it has cake and shoes, two things I like best.

Paradiseinportugal · 07/07/2020 10:39

@TheProdigalKittensReturn

Be careful, a friend of mine was told by her chiropractor that wearing them as shoes rather than as slippers is really bad for your back.
I can confirm that this is true, most definitely true. Don't know about the convincing random romantically frustrated men that women want to shag them though. As others have said, this is not up to women. This is for men to sort. You're not doing very well here op.
Pluckedpencil · 07/07/2020 10:37

When youporn doesn't feature women being abused in a million different ways, we can talk about your problem, which is frankly like comparing a famine with being a bit peckish and wanting something from the fridge.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/07/2020 10:30

I'd offer to educate my male friends about my enthusiasm for some men's sexuality but a. they already know and b. they'd most likely offer to come right over, which would be a violation of lockdown and/or in some cases impossible due to no flights at the moment, and also c. I can already see DH looking a bit suspicious.

If I told any of them that I was interested in soothing the romantic frustration of the incel-adjacent, otoh, they'd know I was lying, and it's not nice to make people laugh when they might be drinking something that has bubbles.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 07/07/2020 10:28

I will go away and think hard about what has been said here

yes, think carefully about wearing crocs OP. they're a fairly serious fashion misstep

you're welcome

TorkTorkBam · 07/07/2020 10:24

I was not upset. I was amused. However I am open to new ways of thinking so I have checked with local men.

By that I mean DH and two of his friends he went cycling with this morning. Also one teenage DS, not technically a man yet though.

DH emphatically does NOT want me to reassure other men that feminists like me appreciate male sexuality and understand their romantic distress. He was quite firm on this point. He seems somewhat upset at the suggestion that I was even considering it.

His two mates were of a different opinion. They said they would be keen for me to educate them and enquired about how this would work. Some suggestions that involved posing flexing biceps to show their, um, credentials were a bit much for DH who ushered them away with exclamations of oi mate and hilarious of talk of wife swapping.

Teenage DS is horrified. I am NEVER to talk about male sexuality online or in irl and definitely not in any way personally identifiable, i.e. traceable back to him. Me saying of how do you think you got made? and your dad wasn't my first boyfriend you know was met with some pained howling followed by an urgent need to do physics online learning immediately. In another room, with headphones on and the door shut. I think I heard him warn his brother not to come to talk to me.

So, a mixed bag of responses there. Not sure what I've learned. I will go away and have a hard think about it. definitely not secretly thinking about DH's fit mates, oh no

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 07/07/2020 09:25

Obviously an undercover operative for the Department of Incels and Celibates (DIC), Scrimshaw. They lurk, rather like Father Ted in the lady’s lingerie, attempting to convert radical feminists from the path of righteousness.

You should go right ahead and buy the sensible shoes, your feet will thank you.

HeistSociety · 07/07/2020 09:10

@IronPyrites

Well it seems I have upset quite lot of people with what I posted. I hadn't intended to cause offence. I will go away and think hard about what has been said here. .
No, we just think it's silly nonsense.
ScrimpshawTheSecond · 07/07/2020 09:10

Iron, good luck. Honestly, I wasn't upset, but your argument, it is of the 1850s. We did this one, a looooooooooooooong time ago.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/07/2020 09:09

I've made a rich fruit cake with Guinness.

Is that a bit like Christmas pudding flavoured?

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 07/07/2020 09:08

I've checked with forementioned shop assistant and can confirm Crocs are assigned for those of the demiromantic/antisexual persuasion.

I hear Clarks have an offer of 1 free lesbian wife with every 2 pairs of brogues, too, get your skates on ladies.

IronPyrites · 07/07/2020 09:06

Well it seems I have upset quite lot of people with what I posted. I hadn't intended to cause offence. I will go away and think hard about what has been said here.
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BigGee · 07/07/2020 09:06

I've made a rich fruit cake with Guinness. Husband (real man who does get to have sex with a feminist, imagine!!!!) practically hoovered it up.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/07/2020 08:51

Ah, so not, like, a sponge cake that tastes like beer.

feetfreckles · 07/07/2020 08:50

In a fruit cake, Guinness replaces brandy and I think it creates a richer more mellow taste
And the leftovers are much more drinkable

RadandMad · 07/07/2020 08:46

Will no one think of the poor menz?

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 07/07/2020 08:40

I have to say, getting the old fashioned gumph ' you're all just lezzers who hate blokes shut up and listen to manly pain' was almost a refreshing change from the newer forms of 'shut up while I gloat about shutting you up'.

I'm getting all misty-eyed for the midnight misogynist.

And here for the replies, obviously.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/07/2020 08:26

Guinness cake? I mean, I suppose it's basically liquid bread anyway, but I'm struggling to imagine a cake tasting nice. And to think people mocked my love for bubble tea last time we had a recipe thread...

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 07/07/2020 08:11

I know! I was being very norty Lillian. I new the double entendre would be picked up on within a couple of posts Grin

LillianBland · 07/07/2020 07:53

@SpongeBobJudgeyPants

Feet. It does make it vair moist... The cake 🎂 that is.
That’s a step too far! We have certain standards here. Swearing fucking permitted, but how very dare you use the word m*t! 🤢