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PotholeParadise · 11/08/2020 19:49

The Drag Time Story Hour UK twitter account (which promotes Aida every other minute) tweeted Love has no age:

twitter.com/DragStoryHourUK/status/1287315692522549248?s=19

Get your screenshots now.

Thinkingabout1t · 25/06/2020 18:44

Flowers and Wine to Leeds Spinners and to Sarah Field. Thank you all.

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 25/06/2020 14:57

@DickKerrLadies

Do they think the thread was deleted and therefore nobody will be able to check?

Anyone can click on the link to the thread and find the post that PN are so angry about and read it for themselves.

Do they really think their readership are that stupid?

They don’t care! They need the hyperbolic inflammatory, complete lie of a headline to get the clicks! They know most people won’t even read the whole article, let alone follow links or verify the assertions via independent research.

The truly awful thing is headlines like that are detrimental to the mental health of the people in the community they are supposed to serve.

My 13 year old stepdaughter and her LGBT mates are constantly sharing Pink News fear-pieces on their insta stories (such as all that bollox about ‘Pridefall’). They have no way to put it into context and are genuinely scared that a Mumsnetter might try and ‘crucify’ them! Yes, marginalisation and discrimination still exists, but not to the point that you cannot walk around outside safely in the U.K. in 2020.

These ‘journalists’ should be ashamed of themselves. As should all the orgs that have deliberately inflated ‘hate crime’ reports in order to get additional political leverage.

They are fucking up young lives.

picklemewalnuts · 25/06/2020 14:27

I'm glad the thread is still there. It's important people can see exactly what was said that so terrified them they needed police intervention.

picklemewalnuts · 25/06/2020 14:24

Dee mentions "safeguarding measures from the police".

I wonder what measures the police felt necessary to protect Dee from someone saying 'anyone else saying that would be crucified!'

Poor Dee must be terrified and the police resources must be stretched really thin protecting them against such vitriol.

DickKerrLadies · 25/06/2020 14:15

Do they think the thread was deleted and therefore nobody will be able to check?

Anyone can click on the link to the thread and find the post that PN are so angry about and read it for themselves.

Do they really think their readership are that stupid?

ShinyFootball · 24/06/2020 15:02

I misread this 'PN are in it for the clicks'

As

PN are in it for the dicks

Grin
thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 24/06/2020 14:54

More blatant trash from Penis Lies.

WeirdAndPissedOff · 24/06/2020 14:39

This is disgusting. I suppose they needed to do it - after all, those nasty T**fs keep using their doxxing, death and rape threats against them, so they need us to be just as bad.

But what they've posted is so stretched it doesn't even resemble the truth, and no coments section, regulatory body etc to get a correction put out. And whilst poor Aida is trembling in fright after having his/her public Facebook images of his/her fetishes brought up in order to question whether appropriate safeguarding had been done prior to inviting him/her to read to small children ("doxxing", apparently), and reading a forum post which says "I'm sorry but anyone also mocking ADHD would be crucified. Why do they get a pass? It's highly inappropriate. All of it." (Death threats/calls for crucifixion, apparently), the article makes a massive point of repeating Sarah's name throughout the article, linking it with these supposed hate crimes, transphobia, and death threats - now what do we suppose the outcome of that will be?

I think Sarah is amazing, and I really hope the backlash from this won't affect her too badly. Sad

OldCrone · 24/06/2020 13:59

Surprisingly there's no mention of the event being reinstated....unless I missed something and it was cancelled for a second time?

It went ahead on the DQSH facebook page.

PronounssheRa · 24/06/2020 13:43

PN are in it for the clicks, they are desperate for revenue, the more outrageous the story the more clicks.

My dog is a more reliable source of news.

bishopgiggles · 24/06/2020 13:41

The crucify bit is a huge misinterpretation (deliberate or not?) of the following comment on the person’s Drag Name. As it stands it doesn’t say what they’re saying it says and it’s actually meant to say ‘anyone ELSE would be crucified’

‘I'm sorry but anyone also mocking ADHD would be crucified. Why do they get a pass? It's highly inappropriate. All of it.‘

I just saw the post on the original thread annd laughed my head off when I realised I found the 'smoking gun'! PN have really, really got to be trolling everyone with this absolute shite. Right?

TooCloseToTheProject · 24/06/2020 13:41

www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/drag-queen-shocked-leeds-council-18467611

Looks like PN are not the only ones picking up this story. Surprisingly there's no mention of the event being reinstated....unless I missed something and it was cancelled for a second time? Absolutely no mention of the safeguarding concerns Hmm

R0wantrees · 24/06/2020 13:33

Another of Cllr Sarah Fields' brilliant speeches here demonstrating her commitment to women and children in Leeds and beyond:

OP AverageAvenger wrote Wed 14-Nov-18
"You have an ally on Leeds City Council

When five prostituted women in Ipswich were murdered in 2006, what did Ipswich council do? It completely eradicated prostitution from its streets.

Ipswich did this through serious investment and multi-agency dedication to the Nordic Model.

I am calling on this council to learn from Ipswich.Visit them and work with them and their police force. I am calling for this council to abolish the shocking and scandalous “managed zone” and commit to the Nordic model, which seeks the following:

  • The decriminalisation of those who areprostituted
  • High-quality services and ring-fenced funding for those in prostitution
  • Buying sex to be made a criminal offence
  • Procuring, pimping and sex trafficking legislation to bestrengthened and the policing of these crimes to be fully resourced and prioritised
  • A widespread holistic approach of public information campaigns, education programmes in schools and training for the police

Leeds has become a city where women cannot even meet to discuss changes to government legislation, but where men are openly raping women, soliciting for sex with children and offering to buy babies.

Our city has become a notorious illustration of misogyny and this scourge must be stopped immediately.

Our women deserve better, our children deserve better, our communities deserve better and the only way forward is to end this sanctioning of sexual violence that should be morally despised.

In memory of Tania Nicol, Gemma Adams, Anneli Alderton, Annette Nichols, Paula Clennell and Daria Pionko."
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3424059-You-have-an-ally-on-Leeds-City-Council

purpleboy · 24/06/2020 13:14

That is a fantastic speech. Thanks Sarah.

stumbledin · 24/06/2020 13:12

SunsetBeetch - I think you missed the point I was making by only thinking of your own point.

Irrespective of income what we are all doing by commenting, archiving etc., is giving them the notice they want.

And the more important point is that once they have published something because, a bit like Stonewall, they were once a source of news and info about the LGB community they are still given credibility.

Perhaps it would be more constructive to ensure each time PN is quoted as a source of new or comment, we contact who ever is using them as a reference point and explain why they are not a credible source.

There are regular threads on here about yet another PN nonsense (I've done it myself) but by bothering to notice them we in fact contribute to them maintaining the appearance of having significance.

And by the way clicking on a web site doesn't generate money. It only generates money if you click on one of the ads on their site to look at a product of service.

If companies advertising are not getting any clickthrough from ads on a specific site they dont repeat.

A lot of what looks like ads look more like automatically generated links based on the article content.

R0wantrees · 24/06/2020 13:11

Sun 21-Jun-20 12:03:14 OP DeployTheTut wrote:

"Leeds Library hosts Drag Queen Story Hour on June 22nd

I could weep, I really could.
Leeds City Council is planning a Drag Queen Story Hour with “Aida H Dee”, to take place tomorrow, 22nd June.
www.facebook.com/349596960793/posts/10157474162555794/?d=n

Local hero, Councillor Sarah Field, is requesting any comments or complaints you may have, to assist her in objecting to this event. [email protected]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3945350-Leeds-Library-hosts-Drag-Queen-Story-Hour-on-June-22nd

MNHQ have commented on this thread:
Hi all,

Thanks for the reports.

A number of accusations have been made in this thread, so we're taking it down for now whilst we check behind the scenes.

[Edit - we are now leaving the thread open but will be closing further comments for the time being]

GingerBeverage · 24/06/2020 12:11

How convenient, Cara
Hmm
So no way of seeing any proof.

DickKerrLadies · 24/06/2020 11:47

‘Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard and hit it fast... with a major - and I mean major...

...leaflet campaign.‘

Ahh, the Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society. I'm not sure we'd be allowed to use that acronym these days though.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/06/2020 11:37

Do angry boys scribbling their rage with digital crayons

Perfect description!

R0wantrees · 24/06/2020 11:33

She chaired a June 2019 meeting at Leeds Civic Hall, organised by “gender critical” group Leeds Spinners. At the meeting, according to transcripts, she said: “There is no such thing as living as a woman.

“We are women. And it is our female biology which makes us women. It is our sex.”

The event was the UK launch of 'Declaration of Women’s Sex-based Rights'

It took place 25th May 2019
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3582159-Declaration-of-Sex-Based-Rights-event-Leeds?pg=2

It is an international human rights campaign, first launched in New York USA featuring the work of Dr. Sheila Jeffreys, Dr. Heather Brunskell-Evans, and Maureen O’Hara:

Dr Heather Brunskell-Evans:
"SUMMARY DECLARATION ON WOMEN’S SEX BASED RIGHTS
"The Declaration outlines current international laws and policies on women’s rights and how they are being threatened by organisations that are trying to change the definition of woman. It reaffirms existing women’s rights and suggests ways that states should promote and protect them. It was drafted with input from women internationally. Launching in March 2019, the Declaration is a clear call to law and policy makers to retain the sex-based biological definition of woman."
www.heather-brunskell-evans.co.uk/thoughts/declaration-of-womens-sex-based-rights-nyc-march-2019/

(extract)
"Women’s rights, set out in the 1979 Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) and subsequent international agreements, are based on our sex, defined by the UN as “the physical and biological characteristics that distinguish males from females”[1].

In recent years organisations have been quietly trying to replace the idea of biological sex with the idea of “gender identity” in human rights documents; and to include men who say they have a female “gender identity” in the word “woman”.

Many women’s rights are related to our biologically female bodies e.g. the right to abortion, and maternal rights. Other women’s rights are aimed at eliminating discrimination against women in public life e.g. women’s rights to education, political representation, work, equal pay. Further women’s rights are to protect us against violence or harmful practices e.g. rape, and FGM.

A key way women and girls are denied rights is by gender or sex role stereotyping (e.g. girls should help at home while boys go to school). The UN recognises this is harmful and works for “the elimination of prejudices and customary and all other practices which are based on the idea of the inferiority or the superiority of either of the sexes or on stereotyped roles for men and women.”[2] The Declaration raises concern that the term “gender identity” reinforces sex role stereotyping because it is only possible to have a “gender identity” by choosing between sex role stereotypes for men and women." (continues)

further information and details how to support the campaign:
www.womensdeclaration.com/en/declaration-womens-sex-based-rights-summary/

NotBadConsidering · 24/06/2020 11:33

I don't think they are regulated by anyone

Certainly not an editor with standards, personal integrity, their peers...

JemimaShore · 24/06/2020 11:24

Fantastic speech by Cllr Sarah Field. Thank you Sarah Thanks

A woman who won't bow to the extremists.

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 24/06/2020 11:20

It all reminds me of the Red Dwarf episode ‘Polymorph’ where Rimmer’s anger gets eaten by a shape shifting alien and he proposes defeating it thus:

‘Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard and hit it fast... with a major - and I mean major...

...leaflet campaign.‘

m.youtube.com/watch?v=5WgUktfdDy4

We’re just writing letters and emails to politicians and organisations to communicate our concerns about safeguarding breaches for children and vulnerable adults and womens legal rights to privacy, dignity and safety. We aren’t telling anyone to die in a grease fire, banging on windows, letting off smoke bombs or assaulting anyone. We aren’t posing with barbedwire and baseball bats, we aren’t threatening rape and sexual assault in an attempt to silence people with an opposing viewpoint.

¯\(ツ)/¯

We are most definitely not the ‘baddies’ here and that is completely obvious to onlookers and fence sitters.

CaraDune · 24/06/2020 11:20

Pink News aren't signed up to IPSO, Ginger. (Though arguably that puts their website in the category of "random frothing blog on the internet" rather than "news outlet".)

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