Young women don't know what a woman is

I was chatting to a youngish man the other day at the pub, and he was quite sure that man/woman referred to gender, and male/female to sex - that is how he made sense of it. That was what he understood as the distinction, from school, from workplace training, from the people around him.

A lot of effort has been put in by TRAs to re-educate people.
This has been happening for a long time in UK.

GIRES
www.gires.org.uk/about-us/annual-meetings/

Scottish Trans Alliance
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3829786-James-Morton-scottish-trans-alliance-quote

Press For Change
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3375587-Press-for-Change

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007

DS thinks it’s all about bullying and is absolute nonsense.

He’s not daft, that lad.

I'm hopeful that the younger generation are seeing through this crap. My friends 12 year old was told, just before lockdown, by her English teacher that in the future sex would be irrelevant
God knows why she said it other than being bang on trend. All the girls were up in arms and said if they had babies in the future the wanted to be able to correctly say what sex they were

I don't know. We only know what words mean because of social convention and what people tell us. If the people around you are all saying the same thing about what they mean, why would you argue? Especially if they are the people you've been taught to trust, and your friends?

Clearly some young people don't buy into it, but I'm not surprised that a lot do. In general I think a lot of younger people aren't rigorously examining the language they've been taught, about all kinds of things.

Yes, yes, that dreadful B-word. I think this is the word young women are terrified of; like being a bigot is the worst thing ever. We older, experienced women don't care. Call me bigot as much as you like; I'll still say that women don't have penises.

A great deal of time and energy goes in to teaching them that being a bigot is the cardinal sin.

I was never that young or that foolish...

Women in the youngest part of that age group haven't even finished their brain development yet, and they are very inexperienced.

I think a significant part of this comes down to language issues. They've been told that being a woman isn't about biology, so they believe it, in much the same way they believe other things they are told. I was chatting to a youngish man the other day at the pub, and he was quite sure that man/woman referred to gender, and male/female to sex - that is how he made sense of it. That was what he understood as the distinction, from school, from workplace training, from the people around him.

Arf. I’m onto the 🥃 now...

Cheers 🥂

I’ll pour you one... cheers! 🥂

😂

That’ll be the wine.,.

But it does matter. It alway has and always will matter.

Now I’ve had a bottle of wine (very nice) and even I know that...

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too

Not when it comes to determining sex. Biology doesn't give a shit about your feelings.

Oh dear.

A poster argued that biology doesn't matter

Isabelle said in that case they could have identified as a man to prevent pregnancy (obviously not being serious)

My (also not being serious) response was that it didnt matter because men can get pregnant . I.e. a woman identifying as a man would be considered as an actual man by the biology doesn't matter crew ergo men can get pregnant.

Yeeeesssss. That’s obviois?

Because it would be a woman identifying as a man 🤦‍♀️

How do men get pregnant? They don’t have the plumbing.

I think you missed my point, Lord...

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I think you will all agree.

Men can’t get pregnant. Unless you decide that words mean nothing, in which case ‘djowfowkkss’ can get pregnant. As long as they have a womb

That’s not quite right. What you mean is

‘Words can’t get womb above men unless pregnant’

BIL has N American heritage. I would love to suggest that concept to him too...

did you know Native American Indians consider trans to be a gift?

Stop the stereotyping, please. My grandmother was Native American. She did not consider trans a gift. She certainly did not believe that men can become women and vice-versa. She'd have laughed at the notion, being a very down-to-earth woman. I know many Native American women, living simple, nature bound lives far from "civilisation". They are ALL very down-to-earth, seeing as they are the ones who birth and rear the children, cook the food, nurse the sick and do the laundry (by hand).
These women are immensely practical and one thing you can bet: they wouldn't waste their time philosophising about gender identity.

They too would split themselves laughing at the idea of one of the men claiming to be a woman, joining in the domestic work.
Because it wouldn't happen. Neither there nor here.

Stop creating myths to show how culturally knowledgeable you are.

Men can’t get pregnant. Unless you decide that words mean nothing, in which case ‘djowfowkkss’ can get pregnant. As long as they have a womb.