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Labour Campaign for Trans Rights: A Feminist purge?

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TinselAngel · 11/02/2020 11:39

This has appeared on Twitter, I'm not sure of the background but suspect it's a response to the Labour Women's Declaration

twitter.com/labour_trans/status/1226939313264394241?s=21

It will be interesting to see how Labour handles this one.

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WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 11/02/2020 18:16

If so, we're being abandoned to the mercy of the Tories for... how long?

As things stand, I’d say 17 years. I would’ve said 15 when I first got up this morning.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/02/2020 18:01

So the modern Labour Party is finally saying out loud that it hates women/lesbians? Well well well.

WombOfOnesOwn · 11/02/2020 17:57

It's interesting, isn't it, what DOESN'T get this treatment?

Has anyone ever been compelled to say that there are absolutely no material conflicts between immigrant rights and worker rights?

I mean, it's a good leftist position that we shouldn't be xenophobic, and that overall immigration contributes to culture and makes us stronger and better. But no one's told they have to say there's NO conflict there.

No one's told they MUST ACCEPT that there's no material conflict between any other two groups of competing interest. It's only us AFABs who have to accept that their rights come last the moment they come into conflict with another group's rights.

Could you imagine someone saying you had to accept there was no conflict, ever, between gay rights and Muslim rights? No? What if they said that even admitting that these rights could ever come into conflict was homophobic and Islamophobic?

This is absurdity. No one should allow it to stand without pointing out how this is simply not required of any other group.

MenopauseIsMySuperPower · 11/02/2020 16:55

I'd highlighted the word 'accept' on the other thread as it was odd, it's come to me now, Isn't a manifesto usually 'We believe' rather than instructions?

Floisme · 11/02/2020 16:37

She declared her pronouns and still lost? Shock
Time to cancel Rother Valley surely?

andyoldlabour · 11/02/2020 16:04

Floisme

It is one and the same Sophie Wilson and her pronouns are she/her. Labour are totally clueless.

twitter.com/soph__wilson?lang=en

Floisme · 11/02/2020 15:46

I see Sophie Wilson has signed. Is this the same Sophie Wilson who managed to lose Rother Valley - previously Labour for 101 years?

Lollygaggles · 11/02/2020 15:37

@Absolutepowercorrupts

Thank you Cake

andyoldlabour · 11/02/2020 15:35

Now endorsed by Rebecca Long-Bailey, shouldn't be surprised really, they are competing for the 2020 "Woke Awards".

twitter.com/RLong_Bailey/status/1227230364961210368

Absolutepowercorrupts · 11/02/2020 15:27

Q@Lollygaggles this one

Labour Campaign for Trans Rights: A Feminist purge?
Lordfrontpaw · 11/02/2020 14:56

I recently listened to a radio adaptation of 1984...

How many fingers?
HOW MANY FINGERS???

Siameasy · 11/02/2020 14:55

Ha! I am reading Animal Farm at the moment how apt

NonnyMouse1337 · 11/02/2020 14:44

You don't understand the real purpose of social media! Manipulation is what it's all about.

Yes, but manipulation is best done surreptitiously, like Facebook and Twitter algorithms pushing up some topics and downplaying others for example.
Viewing a Twitter thread and seeing a message informing that the user has hidden some replies just makes them look silly. Or is the warning message not shown if you are actually signed into Twitter? I don't have an account so I just read whatever is publicly available.

Lollygaggles · 11/02/2020 14:42

Sorry for being dense. I'm quite new to Twitter, which button shows the hidden replies?

NearlyGranny · 11/02/2020 14:22

But has the Labour Party itself endorsed this? I do hope not. If so, we're being abandoned to the mercy of the Tories for... how long?

ErrolTheDragon · 11/02/2020 14:15

You don't understand the real purpose of social media! Manipulation is what it's all about.

NonnyMouse1337 · 11/02/2020 14:08

I don't get the point in the Twitter functionality that enables accounts to hide replies.... Defeats the purpose of social media.

FridgeOffal · 11/02/2020 14:04

Relief is in the replies

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Labour Campaign for Trans Rights: A Feminist purge?
Mossyrock · 11/02/2020 14:01

Well. Those hidden replies certainly are interesting. How illuminating that @Labour_Trans chose to hide them. Including one from D Hayton.

Thank you Moltenlasagne.

TeaAndStrumpets · 11/02/2020 13:59

Sometimes people just need a purge, though.

Labour Campaign for Trans Rights: A Feminist purge?
postingintotheabyss · 11/02/2020 13:59

Am fuming at all of it. But THIS bit of the demands - jeez.

  1. Accept that there is no material conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, and that all trans women are subject to misogyny and patriarchal oppression

When it’s never been noticed, stated or accepted that all women are subject to misogyny and patriarchal oppression, it’s a bit bloody rich if transwomen get to jump the queue...

BovaryX · 11/02/2020 13:57

Let them carry on. The more of this they indulge in, the more remote their chances of being in a position of power to actually implement their Cultural Revolution.

Well said. It's all very Mao. So when John McDonnell chucked The Little Red Book on the despatch box, he was reflecting a party wide influence.....

ThePurported · 11/02/2020 13:56

5. Accept that there is no material conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, and that all trans women are subject to misogyny and patriarchal oppression.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread

And I bet Pippa Bunce suffers terrible patriarchal oppression on Thursdays and Fridays.

NonnyMouse1337 · 11/02/2020 13:54

The account is labour_trans.

If the official Labour Party actually want to get in power, they will be wary of rushing to exclude the vast majority of the population from its membership and support.

FridgeOffal · 11/02/2020 13:51

Look at the wording. It's as if it is a summons to battle.

ACCEPT (our version of reality without question)

BELIEVE

COMMIT (to believing in self-ID ideology)

ACCEPT (that TWAW, TMAM and NBP are NB without question (see COMMIT)

LISTEN to your trans COMRADES (all animals are equal but some are more equal than others/you must unquestionably defer to them)

SUPPORT trans members (vote unquestioningly for their motions)

OPPOSE (motions to protect children and women) and support STRIKING DOWN such ideas

FIGHT against other rights groups that we tell you are phobic, bad and HATE groups

SUPPORT the EXPULSION of those who do not agree and label them phobic and bigoted

SUPPORT (unquestioningly a proposed change to an act of law no matter what the cost for vulnerable women, children, LGB and religious minority groups)

ORGANISE AGAINST (anything we tell you is transphobic, in or outside of our party, without question).

It's violent language. I am chilled to my core by it.

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