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Spoilt votes - post them here so that the parties/papers can see them

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MrsFogi · 09/12/2019 22:51

I know there is a split of opinion about spoiling ballots vs voting for the least bad option.

If you do decide to spoil your ballot it feel free to post a photo of it here (be careful not to include any information that identifies you and in particular not to include the ballot's unique identification number) in case any of our loitering journalists wish to pick up the story or in the hope of giving the parties/candidates some pause for thought.

In case it is of interest (and you want a place to post your views for/against spoiling ballots), there have been a number of threads about spoiling ballots, a few links below:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3751902-Spoiling-my-ballot?pg=2 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3749890-Can-we-talk-spoiling-ballots-again-sorry
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3743237-advice-on-spoiling-ballot
Advice on Spoiling your vote

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Justhadathought · 13/12/2019 11:51

It's the responsibility of political parties to make themselves electable, and in a free and fair election, it's the responsibility of voters to follow their own conscience. There's really nothing more to it

What happened with the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader was the turning to a 'causes' type of campaigning, rather than pragmatic assessment and government. It was all about radical socialist change.

Jeremy has been at the forefront of every trendy leftist cause since his student days. He does at least have integrity in that way. However, some of his many positions and alliances have also been the authors of his downfall. Labour lost two seats in GreaterManchester which have very large Jewish communities. and the militant/Trotsky type bullying in some constituency parties where I live in Liverpool, has meant I could not permit myself to vote for my Labour candidate - and that is without mentioning Dawn butler and the issue of Self Id.

Of course, Labour still cleaned up in Liverpool and its wider region, though.

TiredofthisBS · 13/12/2019 11:50

I remember those days @Horehound. It's tiring and you want to cry. My advice (which I ignored at time but was wise in hindsight so will impart here). Take time for you. Have a cup of tea when you can and do something for you and if possible sleep when baby sleeps.
TBH my little one is six and I still feel shattered. Confused

bellinisurge · 13/12/2019 11:46

Proud of myself not ashamed.

PJsatMidday · 13/12/2019 11:44

This is a bit mean, but we are all mean, nasty and disappointing so:

Jo Swinson: Enjoy Your Erasure

PJsatMidday · 13/12/2019 11:43

Good one Marshmallow

saw this brilliant one on another thread:

Woman: Adult Human Female With A Vote

(kudos @Lordamighty )

Horehound · 13/12/2019 11:42

Where did I call anyone stupid @VMisaMarshmallow
What I said was no one gives a shit meaning it's difficult to find the results of the spoiled votes because media and the parties don't give a shit...
And it's not just women who've spoiled their votes and I'm also not playing competition with who is more tired....

TiredofthisBS · 13/12/2019 11:37

Called it!

Branleuse · 13/12/2019 11:35

Well, you all got what you wanted. Another tory government. Yay. So feminist.

YourOpinionIsNoted · 13/12/2019 11:34

Well said, Ruffle.

RuffleCrow · 13/12/2019 11:33

It's the responsibility of political parties to make themselves electable, and in a free and fair election, it's the responsibility of voters to follow their own conscience. There's really nothing more to it.

Justhadathought · 13/12/2019 11:31

All of the insults extend to the traditional Labour voters who voted for Brexit......according to activists they are too stupid to know what they want....they needed Jeremy to deliver 'it' to them without them noticing he was doing so. Oh, and everyone has been brainwashed by 'the right wing media'.

Until Labour examines itself, and its shadow, they will remain unelectable. They do seem resistant to that, though.

Thelnebriati · 13/12/2019 11:29

We're going to get a lot of your should be ashamed of yourself' comments today. They tried it yesterday because some of us dared to spoil our votes. Today we'll, no doubt, be blamed for Labours defeat

It will be an own goal, its an admission we actually exist in enough numbers to count.

VMisaMarshmallow · 13/12/2019 11:28

Pj maybe add nursing tops with ‘spoiled milk’ with milk crossed out a ‘ballot’ after it? After all it’s women’s biological reality that’s the reason some choose nursing tops, not the reality of male bodies.

Justhadathought · 13/12/2019 11:27

Inclination

Justhadathought · 13/12/2019 11:27

We're going to get a lot of your should be ashamed of yourself' comments today. They tried it yesterday because some of us dared to spoil our votes. Today we'll, no doubt, be blamed for Labours defeat

Let's face it. most of us are probably those metropolitan types that would normally have voted Labour. Labour by and large still won in these sorts of places. Labour lost its traditional post industrial, deprived and neglected towns, mainly in the N.East/the north generally - but also wiped out in Scotland and depleted in Wales.

These communities have no time or inclibation for trendy identity politics.

VMisaMarshmallow · 13/12/2019 11:22

Ah got you. I’m tired and following whose insulting us and whose not isn’t easy when sleep deprived.

(Shhhh, had to google aphorism though.... but laconic is my favourite personality trait in anyone, so ty!)

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 13/12/2019 11:20

I liked your aphorism!

'Twas pithy and true Grin

VMisaMarshmallow · 13/12/2019 11:15

She ?? not sure I get what you are meaning?

VMisaMarshmallow · 13/12/2019 11:14

Hore - so what? Stop trying to appeal to female socialisation to be nice to those who belittle us about using our voice our way. It’s a feminism board not a hold hands round the camp fire at summer camp board. I have 2 daughters with acs, pda and adhd, I haven’t slept in over 10 yrs as one has never slept through the night ever and the other goes to sleep easily but wakes at 2am for the day as standard. That’s ontop of my adhd, my physical disabilities and cfs and chronic pain, and ptsd nightmares to contend with. Disability cuts effect us dramatically, but I can always fight for my daughters and advocate for them, unless women are silenced by being erased as a catagory. So imagine having a 16 week old sleep pattern for the next decade and then think if I should care that you and others called us stupid, disappiointing, cowardly and lacking in integrity. If you are genuine I think you are well aware how you are trying to gas light us. You should go evaluate your motivation behind why you need to belittling women for not doing what you think they should.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 13/12/2019 11:14

Nice work marshmallow

VMisaMarshmallow · 13/12/2019 11:02

Integrity matters to those who have it.

PJsatMidday · 13/12/2019 10:59

I'm thinking of starting a tshirt business, Tired . All proceeds to women fighting their erasure.

Horehound · 13/12/2019 10:56

Yes it is shitty compromises. Humph

Horehound · 13/12/2019 10:56

HmmHmm

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 13/12/2019 10:55

I don't think this feels like a great day for many of us Horehound

it's shitty compromises all round

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