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Spoilt votes - post them here so that the parties/papers can see them

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MrsFogi · 09/12/2019 22:51

I know there is a split of opinion about spoiling ballots vs voting for the least bad option.

If you do decide to spoil your ballot it feel free to post a photo of it here (be careful not to include any information that identifies you and in particular not to include the ballot's unique identification number) in case any of our loitering journalists wish to pick up the story or in the hope of giving the parties/candidates some pause for thought.

In case it is of interest (and you want a place to post your views for/against spoiling ballots), there have been a number of threads about spoiling ballots, a few links below:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3751902-Spoiling-my-ballot?pg=2 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3749890-Can-we-talk-spoiling-ballots-again-sorry
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3743237-advice-on-spoiling-ballot
Advice on Spoiling your vote

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Hopeforthemany · 12/12/2019 17:13

Legitimate form of protest 🤣🤣🤣it’s the cowards way out. You are writing something on a anonymous piece of paper and wasting people’s time. Please you have all had enough time to do something more constructive than scribble on paper.

Telling people to “fuck right off” for having a opinion is disgusting.

Mystraightenersarebroken · 12/12/2019 17:12

Spoiling your ballot is not the same as not voting and people aren't 'helping out' they've applied for the role and are being paid.

WhereYouLeftIt · 12/12/2019 17:12

The deed is done.

For the first time ever I have spoiled a ballot paper Sad.

I shouldn't have had to, but all of the parties are clinging to the fiction that men can be women and that's perfectly fine so just STFU actual 'old-style' women. None of them are dealing in actual REALITY. If they can do this over something so straightforward as binary sex, who knows what else they'll redefine to suit?

TiredofthisBS · 12/12/2019 17:12

You're calling us idiots for exercising our democratic right? Really? You're not going to win women round by insulting them now are you. Something tells me that people are worried.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/12/2019 17:11

not saying you have to vote but if you don’t like any then don’t vote

Bollocks to this. Go and make your voice heard.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 12/12/2019 17:11

I suspect none of this will help a jot. Hmm

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/12/2019 17:11

Is Penis a swear word?

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 12/12/2019 17:11

Oh please, rule of misogyny number 3 again.

Women are grown ups, we're the ones dealing with the fallout when the safeguarding around children is removed. We're out there doing the best for our kids, and in this case that may mean spoiling our ballot.

The absolute sneering RAGE that women won't shut up and do as they're told is really not that appealing.

Spoiling your vote is saying very clearly that you are not voting for any party not out of apathy or lack of engagement (you've made your way to a voting booth) but because none of the candidates on offer represents you - in this case none of the candidates supports women's rights. It sends a very clear message - I am engaged, I want to vote, I feel I cannot in good conscience vote for any candidate. The number of people I've been talking to who've said they're considering spoiling their ballot is staggering in this election (and not all for the same reason).

TiredofthisBS · 12/12/2019 17:10

Just who do you think the suffragettes were? They fought for the right for women to vote. That means me having a choice whether I wish to vote or not. Spoilt ballots are a legitimate form of protest. It only seems to be one party telling coming on here to insult us. Guess what? Tough you had your chance, your party blew it.

MsMcWibble · 12/12/2019 17:10

Hopeforthemany Why on earth should we stay at home and not vote rather than take part in a perfectly valid protest.
I haven't seen anyone saying that they've sworn on their ballot.
I don't think being prissy has ever helped women though.

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 12/12/2019 17:08

Seriously, every time one of those cats-bum-mouth-lemon-suckers posts, I get closer to thinking "ahh fuck it, I'm going to spoil my paper after all".

HandsOffMyRights · 12/12/2019 17:08

And PULLLL!

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 12/12/2019 17:07

If you don't turn out to vote at all then you're counted with the apathetic. Spoiling a ballot paper is a legitimate form of political protest and can all the scolders and thread monitors and headteacher types who don't like it JUST FUCK RIGHT OFF.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/12/2019 17:07

Yup .. they'd be soooo cross

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QuietlyLurkingintheCorner · 12/12/2019 17:06

*I think they’d tell you to grow up.

You’ve got the privilege of voting...so vote ffs. Choose the least worst option or at least vote tactically,*

I did vote. I took my toddler out in the pouring rain and marked my ballot paper. If there had been a none-of-the-above box I would have put a cross next to that one. We don't do that in the UK so I freestyled. And tactical voting only works in marginal constituencies.

Meercatsarecats · 12/12/2019 17:05

What would the suffragettes Think?
There's a picture that's been shared on here loads of suffragettes holding a banner
"No self respecting woman should wish or work for a party that ignores her sex"
As a self respecting woman, I couldn't in good conscience vote for any of the parties on offer, all of which are going to throw women under the bus at the first opportunity in one way or the other. So no.

Hopeforthemany · 12/12/2019 17:03

@TiredofthisBS not saying you have to vote but if you don’t like any then don’t vote. Nobody is forcing anyone to vote just not to be an idiot and draw all over a piece of paper thinking it makes a difference.

And for those swearing on their papers, nobody should have to read that especially not the people helping out.

Women had to fight for a right to vote! Voting means picking a party not thinking you are clever by writing stuff nobody will see.

TerfinUSA99 · 12/12/2019 17:01

Spoiled mine this morning. We only had 3 candidates as the greens threw their lot in with the LDs. So the paper was tiny - I prepared 3 stickers, written in purple and green, with #sex not gender #no to self ID, and the quote from Susan Anthony. They completely covered the candidates names but not the boxes, which I put a line straight through.

I had an email from the LD candidate at 7am telling me it's now or never. I emailed back, suggesting he reads the other emails I've sent him about why I won't be voting for them, and recommending he looks at the spoiled papers at the count.

Then at 4.30 this afternoon an oldish bloke in a dodgy hat, yellow scarf and rosette was on the doorstep asking me if I'd voted! I told him I spoiled and he asked why....
Reader, I told him GrinGrin

And here's a preemptive "Sod off" to anyone who'd like to tell me how naughty I've been today

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 12/12/2019 17:01

The people counting were having a conversation about spoilt ballots whilst I was in there, apparently only one before mine and that was just a mistake.

They'd only know that if the person who spoiled it told them they'd spoiled it, which if they did by accident - as it sounds - they could well have done, perhaps to ask for a new paper. The polling station staff will have no idea how many spoiled ballots have gone into the ballot box.

AGnu · 12/12/2019 17:00

I can't go until a bit later but I've made & printed a sticker to attach to my paper.

Some Labour supporters turned up in my doorstep the other day & I was fascinated that the man seemed to take charge of the conversation about women's rights while the woman stood there almost silent, other than to express surprise that I wasn't convinced by Labour's support for women. The man had the front to patronisingly tell me that "the trans issue is just one small issue & there's some really big things going on..." It was at that point that I realised I'd left a pan on the hob for the last 10 minutes that was supposed to be stirred frequently or I'd have pointed out that I'd said I was concerned about women's rights, not "the trans issue", & that I didn't consider policies that put 50% of the population at an increased risk of sexual violence to be "a small issue."

They didn't even know what the party policy was on another "small issue" that's very important to me. Hmm

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VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 17:00

There’s no least worst option (not sure least worst makes sense either?). Every option is erase women’s rights, there’s no ‘take away all women’s rights’ ‘take away lots of women’s rights’ and ‘take away some women’s rights’. It’s just complete erasure from all options.

GCAcademic · 12/12/2019 17:00

The people counting were having a conversation about spoilt ballots whilst I was in there, apparently only one before mine and that was just a mistake.
I'm wondering if they can take mine straight out and see how I voted?

How could they possibly know that? The box is supposed to be locked until it is taken to and opened at the count after the polling station closes. What exactly did they say?

MsMcWibble · 12/12/2019 16:59

Don't worry - It would be so highly illegal to interfere with a ballot box.

Meercatsarecats · 12/12/2019 16:57

I took a sticker with me, which I was glad about because I was the only person in there.
The people counting were having a conversation about spoilt ballots whilst I was in there, apparently only one before mine and that was just a mistake.
I'm wondering if they can take mine straight out and see how I voted?

MsMcWibble · 12/12/2019 16:56

What would the suffragettes say about people who try to tell women how to vote? Hmm?
I'm 60 years old. I don't have to grow up. Thanks, I'm good.