Spoilt votes - post them here so that the parties/papers can see them

maiden and many of us are terrified of waking up to a majority party who plans to erase women’s rights in a matter of months and the serious consequences of what self ID actually means. No way can I be complicit in voting for a party that does that.

This isn’t about objecting to spoiling papers at all, you are just annoyed we haven’t used our vote to keep Tories out.

That’s why I’m upset that people are choosing to actively do this and encourage others to do the same.

I suggest you address these remarks to political parties who are so woeful on women's rights and child protection that they are losing votes. It's a buyer's market. They're the sellers.

@MsMcWibble good question why am I on here 🤷‍♀️ All
I said was spoiling your vote was wasting people’s time. I didn’t realise I had come on to the feminist forum and I never will seeing how hostile and awful some of you are against people who have a different opinion.

I didn’t realise women’s rights meant we all had to think the same.

My conscience is clear thank you.

what am I afraid of

Waking up to a conservative majority.

It’s that fucking simple. That’s why I’m upset that people are choosing to actively do this and encourage others to do the same. If you don’t understand that then fine. I hope you still feel this was a worthwhile thing to do if that’s where we end up.

YourOpinion so true.
I find this picture sobering. Every single time.

Spoilt mine thanks for the idea MN vipers.

Wrote: None, protect women's sex based rights no self I'd.
Got a photo what needs to be redacted for it to be shared? Would love to share on Twitter/Facebook but I'm identifiable on them.

I find it interesting that the current labour strategy is to yell at, belittle and insult everyone for voting wrong, rather than try to adopt policies that appeal to voters. It's an approach driven by arrogance.

Also tickled by the attempt to guilt trip us re. wasting the time of the vote counters. I imagine that being told not to waste the gentlemen's time was a common experience for the suffragettes, so I rather like that one.

Hope, if our politicans can remove women's rights under our noses with the GRA, where will it end do you wonder?

If women and men are just 'cisgender' where will it end? Where will abortion rights and maternity rights go?
How often will the NHS be sued because a woman was attacked by a man on her ward?

If the GRA passes, the state will become emboldened. The men that hold the power can take more away, until....

Until we have Gilead and then none of this will matter because women will fail to exist.

Wake up.

If it's such a waste of time - why are you here?

*Hopeforthemen^ If you had any respect for women you would not be on here telling us what to do.
We will carry on being non compliant. I can keep this up for every election. You need to look at your own conscience.

@Justhadathought your comment is ridiculous as I am a professional, trade unionist, mum and possibly older than you think. I’m allowed to have a different view and be all of those things.

Please stop isolating women that have different ideas and views. All I’ve said is spoiling a anonymous paper won’t make a difference. Unless we start protesting for the spoilt papers to be read and the reasons ect be counted it is just wasting people’s time.

I look forward to seeing all the coverage the spoilt papers get in the press tomorrow.

You've been repeatedly told that is not why people have spoilt their ballots. Repeatedly. Either you are very hard of understanding or have a real love of hectoring people who don't vote as you demand. Which is, of course, par for the course for many Momentum members.

I've been a candidate in parliamentary elections 3 times - the spoilt papers are shown to agents (and normally candidates as well) with the returning officer having them grouped into categories such as unclear intention (e.g. 2 crosses), included personal information (your vote is discarded if you put your name and address on it), blank and the "message" type ones - e.g. "I vote for Elvis".

There's no guarantee that anyone will take action or reconsider their views as a result of seeing spoiled papers but it's really not true (IME) to say that they will be binned/ignored completely.

My MP and I are on first name terms I contact her so much.
She agrees - and does nothing.

Same. My MP was the only candidate who did not want to remove women's sex-based rights. A Tory. My choice, if I wanted not to vote for the removal of my, and every other woman's, sex-based rights was to vote Tory or spoil my ballot.

People who are turning up to hector us, clearly Labour members or supporters, can blame their own fucking party for abusing and threatening women, for insulting us with their deceptively-framed manifesto "promise", and completely ignoring our concerns. Labour made the choice to pursue this policy, knowing full well how unpopular it is with women. If they cared about the poor, the disabled, the NHS, etc. they would have put aside the middle-class liberal identity politics and focused on getting women's votes.

You can look at that vile tweet of Owen Jones's today to see another example of the deep-rooted misogyny that Labour members level at us, while still expecting us to vote for them.

Hands I think (s)he does. I think wokey woke boo things (s)he is putting women off spoiling. Or off voting. Or guilting them into remaining silent. Or goad us into getting the thread pulled/posts deleted.

Awa asking the same thing over and over despite the obvious (basic as fuck) option of reading the thread just keeps it at top. Keeps peek transing others. Gets more women mad enough to spoil or speak out or fire off emails to mps/media etc.

I'm adding a 'T*RFs Rule' line.
Too much?

So had I been vote counting this evening and seen some spoilt papers like these it would absolutely prick my interest and make me go home and google. I'd ask friends and family if they'd heard of these things ... so yeah, damn right this will spread and cast the sunshine on the issue if nothing else.

Plus as has been pointed out so many friggin times, I'm doing it as my choice. It's a perfectly valid option and NOT THE SAME as not voting.

you do know spoiling your paper is the same as not voting? Because it’s not actually voting.

Once more for the hard of thinking:

Spoiled. Ballots. Are. Counted. And. Included. In. Turnout. Figures.

Cheers maid. I’m drawing pretty penises (red & green, no purple crayon) all round the bath with kids bath crayons currently. With a glass of red. While watching Lisa Nova being Sarah Palin right now. Damn shame she became a millionaire and buggered off to have a life, she’d be fricken priceless imitating JS right now, bet her brother would kick ass being BJ too.

@MsMcWibble you do know spoiling your paper is the same as not voting? Because it’s not actually voting.

Just because I disagree with spoiling papers doesn’t mean I’m not for women’s rights! It’s wrong to accuse women of being on the side of men because they disagree with you.

I look forward to seeing all the coverage the spoilt papers get in the press tomorrow.

If everyone that spoilt their paper had emailed local MPs/newspapers to voice their opinions then it would of had a much bigger impact. I’m sure some did so not having a go at the ones that have, obviously

Your naivety is astonishing.! This is not facebook. This forum is populated by many long standing activists; professional people, journalists, lawyers, trade unionists.....many. i suspect, far older and more experienced than yourself. Oh, and many of us are Mums too!

PJs am chuckling at ROBS, and god knows I need a laugh today!

If this isn’t news then who is going to pay attention and adapt their party policy in response

The party policies are already formed. And around Self ID the dye is cast. Not one MP in the Labour or Liberal party has spoken out; and nobody on the ground/the activists dare to either. Self ID is being pushed through under the radar, with no debate, or public awareness of the full implications. This is not democratic.

You are deluded if you think that voting for a party that supports something ( on paper) that you have profound issue with, is going to somehow magically make that policy disappear is delusional.

So we have gone from being "disappointing" women to being "disgusting" sweary and unladylike ones. Ooh, women, know your place, eh?

Once more for -Momentum- the hard of reading. Nobody on here has told anybody else to go and spoil their vote. Nobody. Women have merely come on here and shared their experiences. We are all in different constituencies and in different personal circumstances. We are all voting with our consciences, and spoiling a ballot is a form of protest vote that is counted.

The only people who have been telling anyone how to vote are LibDems and Labour supporters. You seem to think that women on FWR are so weak minded that a few chastisements will pull us into line and make us be good girls doing your bidding. You have the gaslighter's nerve to invoke the suffragettes whilst doing so.

If you think we are so silly, pathetic and irrelevant, why are you on here? What are you afraid of? Rapid Onset Ballot Spoiling?

I've just spoilt my vote - felt weird but our LD person is HB.
Thanks to whoever posted the sticker idea - it worked really well 😊