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Spoilt votes - post them here so that the parties/papers can see them

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MrsFogi · 09/12/2019 22:51

I know there is a split of opinion about spoiling ballots vs voting for the least bad option.

If you do decide to spoil your ballot it feel free to post a photo of it here (be careful not to include any information that identifies you and in particular not to include the ballot's unique identification number) in case any of our loitering journalists wish to pick up the story or in the hope of giving the parties/candidates some pause for thought.

In case it is of interest (and you want a place to post your views for/against spoiling ballots), there have been a number of threads about spoiling ballots, a few links below:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3751902-Spoiling-my-ballot?pg=2 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3749890-Can-we-talk-spoiling-ballots-again-sorry
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3743237-advice-on-spoiling-ballot
Advice on Spoiling your vote

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HandsOffMyRights · 12/12/2019 19:20

Janice turner wrote a piece in May about why spoiling your vote is the new protest vote.
I can't access the article anymore but if you have a sub then take a read.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spoiling-your-paper-is-the-new-protest-vote-fw3k7d8pq#

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 12/12/2019 19:15

Vote spoiled. I wish I could have voted on Brexit because I do think it will be catastrophic (not that there's a lot of choice given Labour are not overtly anti-Brexit)

What is more catastrophic? Women and girls ceasing to have any rights. My daughter being told she can't say no to an AGP fetishist in the hospital bed next to her.

I do feel sad I couldn't in good conscience vote for someone. It's sad our rights have been rolled back this far already.

HandsOffMyRights · 12/12/2019 19:14

Instead of an X in one box I drew a purple venus symbol in each one.

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 19:14

Please stop isolating women that have different ideas and views

This is a thread for those who frequent the women's rights board to share their feelings and thoughts on their decision to spoil their ballot.

You came onto it( I've never come across you before anywhere on this particular board( to tell people they were silly, stupid, misguided, naive, wasting their time......What did you really hope to achieve?
Nobody is isolating you. You are a minority voice on here - that's all. But that was your choice.

HighlandMam1 · 12/12/2019 19:13

Any spoiled votes are read aloud during the vote count! I was quite surprised when I experienced this as I thought they’d be ignored and binned!

HandsOffMyRights · 12/12/2019 19:12

God that felt empowering.

Spoilt votes -  post them here so that the parties/papers can see them
Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 19:09

@Justhadathought your comment is ridiculous as I am a professional, trade unionist, mum and possibly older than you think. I’m allowed to have a different view and be all of those things

You were the one who entered this particular thread for those decided to spoil - with insults and a generally patronising attitude. Yet when responded to in similar vein - you can't quite hack it.

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 19:06

I look forward to seeing all the coverage the spoilt papers get in the press tomorrow

You have not read the many posts that people, such as myself, put some time & effort into, have you? You provoked, but then didn't bother to read the responses. If you has you would not be making comments such as this. You've bee n told. this is about individual conscience, not about media publicity.

You clearly come on here, as a Labour party activist, to jolly along, or rather patronise, the troops. Like this is a forum full of apathetic idiots who can't tell their arse from their elbow.

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 19:03

It’s wrong to accuse women of being on the side of men because they disagree with you

Feminism and women's rights is not about 'men versus women'.

PinaGrigio · 12/12/2019 18:58

I did the same as BeyondVotesForFlube as in marked the box for my preferred candidate with an x and then wrote round the outside 'No to Self-ID' 'Protect Women's Safe Spaces'.

Last time round in my constituency the margin of victory was below 100 votes so I'm darn sure that someone will be reading that ballot paper later on tonight. They can count it or not - it's entirely up to them, but they will know what I think. And for all the monitors, I don't give a stuff whether or not it makes the news. I did it for me, so that no one thinks I'm going along with this erasure of women's sex-based rights.

PJsatMidday · 12/12/2019 18:52

Just talked my 12 year old DD through what I'm going to do. Her response was, "What would happen if everyone did that? The parties would think they were really rubbish, wouldn't they?"

Godess love her!

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 12/12/2019 18:50

Had a conversation with my DH when I got home. He completely gets it, it’s me that puts myself under pressure. Stood in the polling booth in tears again that I’ve been so let down by the political parties (I’m not usually this pathetic but we’ve had a particularly shitty time lately and this is all just the shitty cherry on the shit icing on the cake of shit). Ended up writing “I wanted to use my vote but you have all sold women’s rights down the river - NO to self-ID” all over the paper.

Feel unutterably sad. First time I’ve ever felt unable to vote. Sad

VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 18:49

As the poster can’t tell it’s feminist chat I think we can all be super relieved that (s)he will be putting their X on the table beside the ballot, so will be joining us dastardly spoilers after all.

raisinseverywhere · 12/12/2019 18:48

Anyway, whatever happens, I would like to thank everyone on this supportive thread. I felt so bad about myself as I originally wasn’t going to vote, but I feel so much better now that I’ve spoilt my ballot as I now feel that I’ve managed to take part in the election, even if it was just to protest.

Magpiefeather · 12/12/2019 18:44

I did it. Spoilt my vote.

My seat is contested between conservative and Lib Dem’s. Greens have a look in but won’t win. I did vote for policies questionnaire and it came back majority green. I would have voted green but couldn’t bring myself to vote for them because of their self ID policy.

I wrote a big NONE across and drew a line through all the boxes, then wrote on my paper (inspire by a PP on this thread) No party supports women. Women matter. No to self ID.

I was the only person in my small village hall polling station at the time and the two ladies at the desk could blatantly hear my pencil tap tap tapping as I wrote all that. Feel glad that I did as I did. Thank you to all here for not throwing women under the bus!

PJsatMidday · 12/12/2019 18:43

If you wake up to a Conservative majority, go and blame Swinson and Corbyn for being so fucking awful that people like me (nearly 50 and born and bred labour) will not vote for them. That neither Labour or the Libdems could come up with a leader inspirational enough to look better than that fuckwit Johnson. That neither of those leaders had the balls to be open and up front with their plans on GRA/EA these last few years, either to allow women's concerns to be heard or to allow their own canvassers/candidates to know what the fuck is going on. Direct your blame at the correct people.

zen1 · 12/12/2019 18:42

Haven’t read the whole thread, but I’ve just spoilt my ballot. I’m actually a member of the Labour Party but couldn’t bring myself to vote for them, particularly since my CLP issued a directive stating TWAW. Must get round to resigning my membership.

Dangerfloof · 12/12/2019 18:42

You cant tell your on a feminist forum? You are beyond belief now. You seem able to read our reasons for spoiling (yet ignoring the reasons) but you cant read the top that says talk, feminist chat.
Sure.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 12/12/2019 18:40

I’ve been in a horrible mood all day, I was going to vote for the least worse option but I just couldn’t do it so I went & spoilt my ballot and I felt better ever since:
None
No self id
Transwomen are men
Single sex spaces are safer for women & girls

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 12/12/2019 18:40

Actually if the sky falls in and Armageddon comes upon us because I didn't vote Labour then I will still blame Corbyn for his woke-blind dogmatism. Not myself.

I fucking hope the lib dems miss our seat by one vote. I fucking do. Jo has been here this week.

Just need to convince dh not to go back out in this horrible weather.

howlsmovingcastle84 · 12/12/2019 18:40

"Won't someone pleeease think of the vote counters??"

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Dangerfloof · 12/12/2019 18:38

Fine, then we wasted our time. Why do you care? If it's to get Tories out then this is not the way to go about it. Hectoring people just gets their back up.

VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 18:37

You can’t tell it’s a feminism forum but you expect us to all line up to put crosses in boxes you deem right.....

HandsOffMyRights · 12/12/2019 18:37

And if some beardo approaches me on the way in, they get one of these.

Spoilt votes -  post them here so that the parties/papers can see them
ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 12/12/2019 18:37

I hope you still feel this was a worthwhile thing to do if that’s where we end up.

I will. Thanks for your concern.

I really hope you're spending 90% of your energy tweeting and emailing the parties who are responsible for our inability to vote for them. Otherwise this does seem a bit like attacking the turkeys because Christmas got cancelled...