Trans chat

Have the Thighs been biting again? Sorry OP. They’re impossible to control

ain't that the truth

placate them with organs and piss OP. I find it's the only thing that works

Has MN ever been "safe"? And what does that even mean? I doubt Op has ever visited AIBU.

Is a trans chat something that passes for conversation?

Fucking priceless.

It's the only way to deal with 'em isn't it?

Babyjakesmum was asking in April 2013 for advice on losing 3 stone of baby weight. About 1.6% of births in the UK are to women over 40. Assuming she was 45 in 2013 she would have been born in 1968.

That should say ‘but is’ rather than ‘it is’ in the first line of my previous post. Using ‘it’ is probably taking the pronoun thing too far :)
Apologies.

@antibles - 😂😂😂

OP hasn't been on Mumsnet for soooooo long. Yet instantly and with precision accuracy, they're able to pinpoint the very board where discussion of trans issues and women rights are mostly taking place. And then go to that board and issue a queenly rebuke to all its users for being notty little women who are not being nice because they feel their 'femininity' [snort] is under threat. Add to this the confuddlement about the very concept of femininity and its relation to the category 'gender', despite having been pontificating on these issues and others like them since before the first feminist was ever born, then on careful reflection I think I call BS.

Is a trans chat something that passes for conversation?

How shocked was I when I saw thread name "Trans Chat" that it was one of those threads?

I think the regulars on here are desensitized to the anti trans rhetoric. I can see how the OP would find it shocking if she's not been on here a while. I remember being shocked when the whole thing kicked off a few years ago.

OP there are some important issues being discussed on here. Fairness in women's sport and the ethics of trans women being recruited as rape crisis counselors for women and girls are examples of key issues that women are rightly concerned with.

Unfortunately a lot of these discussions are overshadowed with general negativity and praise of right wing activism (recently there were cries of support for Posie Parker making a video with a white supremacist) which can be very off putting. I've seen and reported a lot of vile posts on here so yes the hatred is there, but MNHQ deal with it swiftly.

I may be naive but I think 95% of posters on here wish trans people (particularly trans women) no harm and want them to be able to live their lives happily and comfortably - just not with the full status of being 'female'

One of my best friends used to identify as lesbian it is now transitioning FtM. We’ve had some heated discussions - in fact we’ve always had heated discussions - but we’re still firm friends.
I want transpeople to have the same rights and respect as everybody else. Personally I’m not worried about trans women using women’s spaces (though I understand why many women are), but :

• I disagree with self ID effectively allowing any male into any female space.
• I will use the pronouns that I think are appropriate and polite, not those that some else tells me I should use.
• trans women should not take part in women’s sport.

I have trans people in my family

I also have trans people in my family. Sibling. Fully transitioned. Still suffering major mental health issues.

I am an old school, campaigning, hard-bitten feminist, and have been since before half the people on here were born

Not since before I was born. As my GS says, "Grandma is really old."

PencilsInSpace

hard-bitten feminist

So funny!!!

Not much of a trans chat if you scuttle off and don't reply OP.

Oh fuck of with the 'no longer feels safe'.

I'd put my kids with gender dysphoria in the care of a GC feminist from Mumsnet without a care. They're not bloody sexist, they're not freaking homophobes, they understand that it's OK to be gender non-conforming, they care about long term health impacts that arise from transitioning, they have appropriate boundaries, they understand safeguarding, and they don't believe in lying about material reality.

My kids would be safe as fucking houses with Mumsnet FWR. Which is more than I can say for some people and organisations out there.

Only a couple of hours ago I posted on a thread about people throwing about the empty arguments of people wanting trans people literally erased. Hey presto - OP appears with hyperbole about us thinking all trans people are criminals, etc. OP - you’re wilfully twisting what’s posted said to fit your agenda.

How very dare you disrespect my experience of having a transgender child.

Honestly, fuck this shit.

Sadly OPs, these are not 'one offs' if you care to read this thread (which is still only a handful of examples the growing number of incidents).

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread

I know you can cite a handful of examples, but then there are always a handful of example of anything. One Karen White does not mean you write off all trans-people as criminals.

The majority of men aren't rapists or abusers but that doesn't mean we shouldn't protect women from those who are.

(by "you" I mean those that say mn is an "antitrans site")

Quotes. Quote the supposed "bitter hatred". Quotes quotes quotes quotes quotes.

None of you can ever quote anything that supports what you try and say happen - because it doesn't actually exist on mn.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Here's a useful thread OP, to help you catch up.

I'm not sure why you think we don't know any trans people. Quite a few of us were married to them.

Have the Thighs been biting again? Sorry OP. They’re impossible to control.

God I had to do all that mental maths for nothing...

Mental gymnastics must be even more exhausting

But sadly, I have to say that I find the level of bitter hatred on here to be utterly breathtaking

Quotes, please. Because those that come on here spouting that can NEVER actually quote something someone has said.