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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)

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GirlDownUnder · 22/07/2019 01:34

Thread 1 here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3632380-Fascinating-tweets-about-JY-s-waxing-case-Read-here-Thread-title-edited-by-MNHQ

This is a continuation of all that is JY and their waxing cases bought against minority women in Canada.

We are a fair way in, and still are no closer to knowing what the final judgment will be, but we have lots of info. and are finally seeing this case, and all the attending issues with self ID, in the public eye and main stream press.

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ZebrasAreBras · 23/07/2019 07:46

I want to publicly thank Sarah Ditum for this twitter exchange - it is so, so illuminating.

To see these Scottish women arguing that "women do it too, women are as bad..." is so unbelievable. One an MSP, one is the partner of Mhairi Black??? Bloody hell, no wonder Scotland is in so much trouble with this - this isn't even about trans rights any more - these are MRA lines.

twitter.com/sarahditum/status/1153246327771471872

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)
GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 07:41

tea your timing is spooky! Only recently did the 2018 award thread get reopened Brew

And The 2018 Golden Bollocks Awards go to …

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374403-And-The-2018-Golden-Bollocks-Awards-go-to

I believe nominations are open Grin

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RiotAndAlarum · 23/07/2019 07:38

Niall Boylan has a wonderful radio voice. So warm, and he sounded so friendly and interested. No wonder JY was lulled.

teawamutu · 23/07/2019 07:13

Should we have some kind of FWR Awards? Cos if we do, JY is a shoo-in for Most Valuable Player.

Incidentally, the picture I saw of Fiona Robertson appeared to show her with blue hair. Of course it did.

IStillMissBlockbuster · 23/07/2019 07:09

Ah nice. Ricky G has just tweeted out that collage of JY's tampon/paedo pervy tweets. Perfect.

Destinysdaughter · 23/07/2019 06:54

JY is complaining about their treatment on the radio. Replies underneath aren't having any of it tho!

twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1153401816991748096?s=19

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 23/07/2019 06:25

yes, that speccie US article is by Meghan Murphy. good to see her getting mainstream journalism gigs

DanaPhoenix · 23/07/2019 05:35

That response was "chef's kiss" from Ricky. The photo of the article is perfect too, just how you would imagine he'd look when first hearing about JY.

Destinysdaughter · 23/07/2019 05:29

His response! Grin

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)
Destinysdaughter · 23/07/2019 05:23

Ricky Gervais called 'transphobe' for defending women...
www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/gabriel-hays/2019/07/22/ricky-gervais-called-transphobe-defending-women-refusing-wax

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 02:55

Elsie has finished posting for the day, see link ☝️

But lots of us have asked how JY is getting away with not answering the ‘what genitals’ question.

That was bought up again at the end of today’s tweets, relevant bits:

Member - Judge
JC - lawyer for the women
MD - female waxer

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Member says what parts, scrotum, vulva?
JY - the second, vulva
JC continues: Your evidence is that you have a clitoris, labia, a vagina?
JY - won't say
JC - Don't play games, do you know what a vulva is?
JY - external skin around a vagina
JC -No, it is the external female genitals
JY - not saying if has fully formed (vulva)
JC - Does JY have any medical information, an independent exam?

Member stops exam line of questioning

JY - genitals are deformed, embarrassed to tell publically, asks JC, how do we know that you have a fully formed penis & scrotum
JC say he would be upfront

Member tells JY, no more using people in the room as examples

With that, time to break for me. JY's testimony will continue but be broken up so MD can testify and get to work.
—————————

So, I guess in summary the Member is either not happy with this line of questioning as it’s intrusive (or something) or she already knows which way she’s going so the confirmation is unnecessary.

At least JC is pushing it.

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GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 02:35

Martina Navratilova is on it!! See responses to Lily Maynard in this tweet

mobile.twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/1153421394664919046

Martina’s response

mobile.twitter.com/Martina/status/1153444553925382145

Very good news - more exposure Grin

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GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 01:42

Elsie is updating case 3 from the 17th July now

She started transcription on the 20th July here

mobile.twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/status/1152403630974046208

Updated yesterday

mobile.twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/status/1153070487347400704

And today’s thread starts here

mobile.twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/status/1153396627723284481

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DeRigueurMortis · 23/07/2019 01:30

Shameless placemarking...

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 00:40

Thanks for the link to the radio thread Ova

Without permission but with much thanks to @miri1985 WineThanks from that thread a transcript of the call in.

JY predictably flounced mid way through the interview and turned off the phone so that conversation is over. The interviews are usually available as podcasts the day after but I took some notes (not the fastest typer) that I thought others might be interested in. Well worth listening to when its out as a podcast Niall Boylan (NB) didn't really give an inch.

Some is dialogue (may not be 100% accurate) and some are just notes

NB: Asks for JY's version

NB: Says born Johnathan?

JY: Officially changed name in 2019 has been going by Jessica privately for years

JY: Very complex process to change name, have to change everything. Was going by Johnathan with female as ID for quite some time

NB: All stuff changed but still have male genitalia

JY: I do but still have intersex genitalia

NB: You don't have a vagina

JY: Its complicated

NB: Well you don't

JY: No

NB: Externally that part would look male

NB asks how JY found these women

JY used to use the phone and would get a lot of discrimination so decided to use facebook marketplace so that people could see who JY was

JY claims to have procured an expert witness for next court case from Cleveland Ohio claims a Brazilian does not mean removal of hair from female genitals, it apparently means removal of hair from "belly button to butt" regardless of gender

NB: Is it not called a manzillian or back sack and crack?

JY: Its not

NB: How did you select the ones you wanted to contact? These were female beauticians correct?

JY: There were males too but they provided fake information

JY says there are 3 more cases being heard on on the 26th (not 100% if 26th is correct but its what I wrote)

NB: Is it true looking for 8k per complainant?

JY: Some 3k some 5k, some 7.5k, another 15k due to her husband interfeering in the case! (annoyance palpable by JY that someones husband would interfere when their wife is being extorted)

JY then claims this whole thing is the same as if they came to Ireland and refused service to Irish people. NB disputes this.

JY then says they were just assaulted on skytrain for being trans

NB then says that he doesn't believe JY has the right to have people believe that they are a woman.

NB: I don't believe in God, do you?

JY: I do

NB: I don't believe I respect your faith, that doesn't mean I have to believe in God. What you're asking these women to do is perform a service they don't believe in. Are those women not protected?

JY: No, essentially I am a protected class.

NB: Are these women not protected?Why does your right trump theirs? Thats the concern I have is that those women should be allowed to say no. They're saying we shouldn't be forced to do that

Line goes dead

Tries to get JY back who has turned off their phone.NB says its a shame as they really wanted to talk more about it.

Reads out 2 emails about JY (neither supportive) moves on

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GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 00:20

Jessica Yaniv TRIGGERED on Irish radio! Hangs up mid interview.

YouTube interview - Niall Boylan v JY

JY goes to Twitter cos sooooo offended

mobile.twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1153401816991748096

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Voice0fReason · 22/07/2019 23:41

I need to catch up on the latest bits from Elsie
She has done an awesome job reporting on this

littlbrowndog · 22/07/2019 22:52

Well he admitted on the radio show in Ireland that he has a penis and testicles.

And he was truly busted on that show. He hung up when it became obvious the guy wasn’t going to let him do chit chat on what Yaniv has being used to do at the tribunal hearings.

Great job Niall 🔥🔥

OhtheHillsareAlive · 22/07/2019 22:48

Thanks for this second thread.

JY is increasingly reminding me of Humpty Dumpty (and that's not just about their dress sense), but Humpty says in Alice Adventures in Wonderland that "Words mean what I want the to mean" (or something to that effect).

The prevarication (some might say flat-out lying) around his biological sex and genitalia ...

arranbubonicplague · 22/07/2019 21:56

She may well use her being trans as a weapon against other women, but that doesn't make her not trans. Female predators often use their womanhood as a way to access victims.

As PP say, with the disproportionate emphasis of sex crimes among the relevant demographic and the collection of crime statistics that record sex as asserted - we may soon have a very different perspective on offending behaviour in female predators.

The layers of statistical abuse and wilful distortion of facts is truly shocking and will undermine any attempt to research this (previously small) group of offenders.

OvaHere · 22/07/2019 21:54

JY on Irish radio show

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3645271-JY-on-Irish-Radio-now

dontdoxmeeither · 22/07/2019 21:17

Bookmarking

OvaHere · 22/07/2019 21:02

I see. My mistake, it all came up in the same thread hence the confusion I guess. Perhaps I should open an account just so I can follow things properly!

miri1985 · 22/07/2019 21:01

JY is going to be interviewed on 4fm in Ireland at 9pm
www.facebook.com/NiallBoylanAtNight/

www.classichits.ie/player/

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