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Strong influential women.

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Magneticred · 15/07/2019 21:18

I wasn't sure where to put this but after reading a lot of threads on this board I thought that this might be a good place.
Dd1 is 10 and has mild sn she is in a special provision school. An incident happened today where a boy told her to pull down her underwear. She refused and told me as soon as she got home. She explained she didn't feel like she could tell the member of staff present as they were male. I have spoken to school they are taking it seriously and are dealing with this.

Dd has anxiety and this obviously upset her and I'm trying to be supportive but she keeps telling me she hates that girls are weak and not as good as boys and how it's always been like that and will always be like that. This has got to me because I have dc of both sexes and I've tried my best to bring them up to believe they can do anything and stereotypes mean nothing.

I want to make a list of strong influential women who I can sit down and show her. So far I have Emmeline Pankhurst and the suffragettes, Marie curie, Rosa parks, Marie stopes (I'm not sure she's old enough for this one yet) and Amelia Earhart.
I do feel ashamed I should know more. I have pointed out people like Theresa may and Angela markel but her response to them was that when they are on the news it's never for good things.
Her reading isn't very good so I have been looking at videos on YouTube and I'm starting a play list so I can sit down with her and watch.

Is there anymore I could and should add to this list?

Im sorry there's a lot more intelligent and interesting discussions then this and any help would be appreciated.

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Imnobody4 · 17/07/2019 18:16

Inspirational Female Sailors: Tracy Edwards, Ellen MacArthur, Dee Caffari
www.girlsgosailing.com/girls-go-sailing/inspirational-female-sailors
Particularly Ellen MacArthur who's involved in environmental stuff now.

Wangarĩ Muta Maathai (wàŋɡàˈɹɛ |m|ɑː|ˈ|t|aɪ; 1 April 1940 – 25 September 2011) was a renowned Kenyan social, environmental and political activist and the first African woman to win the Nobel Prize.[1]
Died
25 September 2011 (aged 71)
Education
BSc: biology
M.Sc: biological sciences
Ph.D: veterinary anatomy
Environmentalist, political activist, writer
Known for
Green Belt Movement
Awards
Right Livelihood Award (1984)
Nobel Peace Prize (2004)
Indira Gandhi Peace Prize (2006)

In 1977, Maathai founded the Green Belt Movement,[2] an environmental non-governmental organization focused on the planting of trees, environmental conservation, and women's rights.

LoveGrowsWhere · 17/07/2019 17:39

Childrens book
www.amazon.co.uk/Fantastically-Great-Women-Changed-World/dp/1408876981/ref=asc_df_1408876981/?linkCode=df0&hvadid=310815845917&tag=mumsnetforu03-21
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WhatTheWatersShowedMe · 17/07/2019 16:43

Judith (the Biblical one)
Athene, Hera and Artemis
Frida Kahlo
Elizabeth I
Isabella of Spain
Joan of Arc
Jane Goodall
Harriet Tubman
Soujourner Truth
Marie Laveau
Serena Williams
Boudicca

Satterthwaite · 17/07/2019 11:04

I was going to suggest A Mighty Girl but someone has beaten me to it

aliasundercover · 17/07/2019 10:48

An athlete and a mathematician:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_Burton

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia

... and a pirate, because everybody loves a pirate:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_O%27Malley

OhHolyJesus · 16/07/2019 19:20

God I didn't know Whoppi defended Polanski! Sorry, bad suggestion. I really liked Whoopi, damn what a disappointment.

LassOfFyvie · 16/07/2019 19:09

Like a pp, I would explore more what she means by strength/weakness

I agree. I'm not sure exactly how much help a list of exceptional women will really help. The vast majority of us, female or male, are not in their league.

Standing up for yourself and having confidence that you are in the right (and the ability to recognise sometimes you might be wrong) is every day strength.

Spindelina · 16/07/2019 19:01

This thread might have some more ideas:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3424606-inspirational-women-list

Jellylegsni · 16/07/2019 18:05

Like a pp, I would explore more what she means by strength/weakness. Being strong can mean a lot of things. Her refusal to do what the boy said is a sign of strength in itself.

rubyontherocks · 16/07/2019 15:35

My daughter enjoyed watching the videos on www.thefemalelead.com/collections

LassOfFyvie · 16/07/2019 13:58

Whoopi Goldberg is a tough one for me I struggle with how she defends polanksi and that caused me to lose some respect for her. I guess she's a lesson on how you can admire someone but still not condone all their views which really is the same with Margret Thatcher

I'm not sure that Goldberg's idiotic remarks are similar to a difference in opinion in politics and economy.

TheInebriati · 16/07/2019 11:21

I don't think this is what she meant when she said 'girls are weak'. All of these women are strong, famous women, but your DD was sexually harassed and had no one she could trust to tell until she got home. and that's the issue that needs to be addressed.

She felt weak because she was harassed and there was only a male teacher to talk to and she was too scared and embarrassed to tell him.

It would be useful to teach her how to tell an adult and give her coping strategies.
I taught my lot to say 'I need help', and then 'I need to talk to (named female member of staff) or (my Mum on the phone). On the phone we had a code they could give me and then I'd phone the school and say I needed to talk to them or come in.

Magneticred · 16/07/2019 10:50

Thank you all so much I've written down all the names and started a playlist for her.

Whoopi Goldberg is a tough one for me I struggle with how she defends polanksi and that caused me to lose some respect for her. I guess she's a lesson on how you can admire someone but still not condone all their views which really is the same with Margret Thatcher.

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LassOfFyvie · 16/07/2019 01:08

Not sure if this is valuable but I would look at ....Whoopi Goldberg too

I'd avoid Whoopi "Roman Polanski wasn't guilty of rape - rape" Goldberg like the plague.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2009/sep/29/roman-polanski-whoopi-goldberg

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 16/07/2019 00:50

Check www.amightygirl.com. Lots of resources about intelligent, capable women and girls. They regularly post on Facebook highlighting individuals and their stuff is aimed at girls, so age appropriate. They have booklists featuring “mighty girls”, both fiction and non-fiction.

Women you should know are also on FB and Instagram, featuring women lost to public knowledge. womenyoushouldknow.net

And Max Dashu’s Suppressed History archives is another wonderful source, but probably one to pick and choose from. www.suppressedhistories.net

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 15/07/2019 23:28

Clara Barton - founded American Red Cross.

sleepwhenidie · 15/07/2019 23:25

Jacinda Arderne - amazing woman.

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 15/07/2019 23:21

I see someone mentioned Goodnight Stories for Rebel Girls above. They are also in a podcast, which your dd might find more accessible (we listen to them in the car). Also, Grainne Mhaol (Grace O'Malley) was a kick ass Irish pirate and a contemporary of Queen Elizabeth I. Constance Markievicz was a military leader during the Irish 1916 Rising and the first woman to be elected as an MP, although she never took her seat.

Sounds like your dd is a strong girl with firm boundaries. Wish I had her knowledge at that age or now. 💪

OhHolyJesus · 15/07/2019 22:27

Not sure if this is valuable but I would look at Oprah and Whoopi Goldberg too, both fought like hell to get where they are and are successful women, great suggestions of monarchs and scientists too.

If she's interested at all in space stuff she could watch Hidden Figures and there is a Documentary on Netflix about women making sanitary pads called Period. End of a Sentence. Depends on if she knows about periods or not yet but it's very inspiring.

Also Alexandra Ocasio Cortez is young, strong and very eloquent. Think there was a Netflix doc on her too.

DuchessDumbarton · 15/07/2019 22:15

What about this website? The Kids Should See This- if you search for women?

Magneticred · 15/07/2019 22:08

Thank you all so so much I may make 2 playlists up and have 1 that of those who I think may be better suited to when she's older.

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Earlywalker · 15/07/2019 21:58

Harriet Beecher Stowe
Mary Seacole
Josephine Butler

Hope your DDs alright and that it doesn’t knock her confidence too much, it’s a great idea to give her a list of strong woman.

Ratonastick · 15/07/2019 21:51

Oh and some of the great queens of history. Eleanor of Aquitaine, Matilda, Maria Theresa, Catherine the Great, Elizabeth I , Altani Khan, Zenobia, , Boudicca. I vaguely remember reading a book that was a series of short pen portraits of the warrior queens of history. I think it was by Antonia Fraser. Probably a bit much for your DD, but definitely a good source!

AlessandraAsteriti · 15/07/2019 21:50

Teresa Mattei, at only 25 elected to the first post-war parliament in Italy and helped drafting the Constitution.

Strong influential women.
youllhavehadyourtea · 15/07/2019 21:50

Grace Darling and Catherine Douglas spring immediately to mind.

Strong influential women.
Strong influential women.