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Plans for "radical" trans health service model to be rolled out across England

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GenderSceptic · 02/04/2019 19:50

A “radical” new model for trans health services – run by trans people and offering hormones, surgery referrals and non-medical support – is to be trialled in Greater Manchester. NHS England then plan to roll this model out across the country in order to meet the increasing demands from more and more people identifying as transgender. The service will initially deal with people currently on waiting lists but the plan is to then allow new GP referrals and, when fully operational, for people aged 17 and over to be able to self-refer themselves without going through a GP:

www.gmhsc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/07-Greater-Manchester-Trans-Health-Service.pdf
www.events.england.nhs.uk/events/greater-manchester-trans-health-service-engagement-event

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RepealTheGRA · 02/04/2019 21:16

Has the ATH’s batshit manifesto actually been put into practice? JFC Shock

StephsCaddy · 02/04/2019 21:12

Sounds expensive

ChattyLion · 02/04/2019 21:11

Also is that Manchester foundation mentioned at the top of the document linked to that group who posts out binders to underage girls..?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3440120-Mail-online-criticises-Manchester-MORF-charity-for-distributing-binders-to-young-teens

PerspicaciaTick · 02/04/2019 21:10

A nice new, fat income stream for Mermaids.

CottonDuvet · 02/04/2019 21:09

Thanks for posting that link OP.

There was a good point in there - which is the current NHS pathway leads almost inevitably to medical transition, and that trans people feel under pressure to medically transition.

If a new service could genuinely support gender non conforming people to live their lives confidently without taking risks with irreversible interventions then that is s good thing.

That's me sounding more optimistic that I should...

Dinneratbreadsticks · 02/04/2019 21:08

So is being trans a mental health or physical health condition? Because I thought I saw a clip of Theresa May being applauded for saying it wasn't.

ChattyLion · 02/04/2019 21:04

This is really bad. Just had a quick scan but I don’t think health services of this high level of risk and permanence should be being delivered outside of very very specialist care.

And since when were health services best delivered by patients- this document suggests services should be staffed by trans identifying people.

I’m sorry but that is really inappropriate. Once again let’s look at how other forms of mental distress or body dysmorphia are clinically managed in the NHS.

Why is are trans patients being treated as though normal safeguarding, specialist clinical expertise, standard medical ethics, and normal clinical protocols do not apply to them? We should all be very worried by this.

Imnobody4 · 02/04/2019 20:56

I just want to cry. Does no one learn from history. Undemocratic, 'charitable' organisations being given unfettered powers without any real controls. This is getting like Ireland putting the Catholic Church in charge of public services.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 02/04/2019 20:48

Wasn’t this in the Action for Trans Health manifesto?

stillathing · 02/04/2019 20:45

Women should totally copy this idea and start sexual health services and refuges for women run by women! Oh, wait....

plattercake · 02/04/2019 20:45

Well well, here's more of the stuff that was hiding in the pipeline eh? Last year's consultation was supposed to go by quietly so all this harmful ideology could just be rubber stamped and cheques signed

I can't open the PDF, but the NHS page says

The day will be split into two sessions, the first session in the morning will be for potential users to hear ideas around the new service and to shape the important questions to bidding organisations.

The afternoon session will provide an opportunity for potential service users to meet the organisations who have expressed an interest in delivering the new service. This will allow them to hear first hand of what is important to people and allow these providers to discuss how they might see the service working. (my emphasis)

Amongst other Qs, who are these organisations? Why are they not specialist services from within the NHS (not that the Tavistock is anything to be proud of.. but I am even more concerned about private organisations, and the money they will make out of it.

I am in total support of trans people getting quality care but frankly, think this needs to be MH care. No money for this though it seems.

And 17? FFS and with no need for a GP to know or refer?

RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 20:40

Isn't this like getting hooked on heroine but with hormones?

Only NHS supervised.

Nuts. Utterly nuts.

TheCatsServant · 02/04/2019 20:37

OMFG! Are they completely deluded? All this without ANY well conducted large scientific studies, published in high quality peer-reviewed medical journals. The £££ litigation the NHS will be up against a few years down the line will finish it.

The reckless stupidity (and dangerousness) of it all is staggering

jamrollyolly · 02/04/2019 20:31

Fuck, that's insane. Is no one listening?

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