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Incorrect Government Information

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ClingFilmApplications · 13/03/2019 09:13

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but on this page the UK government claim that "gender" is a protected characteristic:

www.gov.uk/government/organisations/equality-and-human-rights-commission

This can be reported here (I've done so, but it may be helpful if others do too):

www.gov.uk/contact/govuk

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theOtherPamAyres · 01/04/2019 20:35

And from the Home Office's website:

We will not discriminate on grounds of age, caring responsibilities, disability, gender, gender identity, marriage and civil partnerships, part-time working, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sexual orientation or any other factor irrelevant to a person’s work.

Spot the protected characteristic that doesn't get a mention and might (or might not) be bundled up with "and any other factor". But gender and gender identity are there, oh yes.

This is why the police are so keen to jump to the tune of people who feel that their gender identity is being slighted. This is why the police remain unaware that 'sex' based rights are covered by the Equality Act - despite what the HOme Office says

www.gov.uk/government/organisations/home-office/about/equality-and-diversity

GerryblewuptheER · 01/04/2019 11:45

So whereas it appears to have been fixed did anyone hear back from the department of education?

SingingLily · 26/03/2019 16:58

I've posted a complaint to the RCN website (using the site feedback link), pointing out that it is misleading and inaccurate, and asking them to correct it as per EA2010.

RepealTheGRA · 26/03/2019 16:46

Do you collect tokens in the sun to become a professor for £9.50 these days? WTF is wrong with Sally Hines? Shock

JackyHolyoake · 26/03/2019 16:46

Ha ha! Wetting myself laughing:

"sex is so nebulous and contested a term now" ... a quick chat with the mother of Sally Hines just might say otherwise, eh?

R0wantrees · 26/03/2019 16:43

Professor Sally Hines.
Leeds University

essl.leeds.ac.uk/sociology/staff/26/professor-sally-hines

Interviewed with Prof Kathleen Stock on Woman's Hour sex and gender series last year:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3427931-Prof-Stock-on-Womans-Hour-today

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3428663-Sally-Hines-on-Twitter-re-Womans-Hour

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JackyHolyoake · 26/03/2019 16:40

It is the responsibility of the Government Equalities office to monitor such behaviours by other public institutions. As I have said befioe, though, the Government Equalities Office is nothing more than a sub-branch of Stonewall now.

R0wantrees · 26/03/2019 16:38

current relevent thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3541908-Regulatory-capture

OldCrone · 26/03/2019 16:28

Link to RCN page on discrimination where they use gender instead of sex.

www.rcn.org.uk/get-help/rcn-advice/discrimination

AltGr · 26/03/2019 16:23

Unbrave lurker here, slowly moving towards small actions. Is there a thread more generally listing places where sex has been replaced by gender? I've just spotted the Royal College of Nursing has listed gender instead of sex as a protected characteristic. A female dominated profession, where I'd imagine it's vital to know the difference! I've contacted them, but in case any RCN members felt the urge to do the same, I thought I'd post here. I can't work out how do link on my phone but it's in several places on their website, including in their strategic vision for equality and inclusion publications.

Backseatonthebus · 26/03/2019 15:57

Brilliant work. I emailed my local County Council who were claiming exactly the same thing on their website. They never replied to any of my emails, but I can no longer find the incorrect information, so hopefully they have now changed it. Small victories but important ones.

sackrifice · 26/03/2019 15:53

Well done, I reported it as well - they must have had quite a few reports so they had to change it.

Apollo440 · 26/03/2019 15:51

Well done. Let's roll this nonsense back wherever we find it.

ClingFilmApplications · 26/03/2019 15:49

Yay!

gov.uk page in my original post has now been FIXED.

Thanks to everyone who helped get this sorted!

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SingingLily · 24/03/2019 12:20

Delighted with the result! Thank you, ClingFilmApplications, for spotting it in the first place.

OvertheInfluence · 24/03/2019 08:37

Just wanted to resurrect this thread to say...the page now correctly lists sex 🎉

Well done everyone that emailed, proof that it works!

SlipperyLizard · 19/03/2019 07:58

Clearly this isn’t a typo though.

SlipperyLizard · 19/03/2019 07:58

Just reading a newly released DWP consultation on pensions (rock n roll!), I’d already spotted numerous typos but this is the only one I feel like complaining about!

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Daughterofmabel · 18/03/2019 18:21

I got an acknowledgement today. Didnt say owt about EHRC.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/03/2019 18:05

I had mine today, too.

Let's see what happens next, I suppose...

GerryblewuptheER · 18/03/2019 11:45

Just got the same reply as Ewe

Original query with Gov.uk closed.. Hmm

GPismyboss · 15/03/2019 18:01

Thanks OldCrone. Gin

stumbledin · 15/03/2019 14:11

There's another thread about this. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3531825-Governments-own-website-sites-gender-not-sex-as-protected-characteristic

And I didn't notice at first but the web page is an old "holding" page to say that EHRC now has its own web site. Where (I think!) they do have the right list of protected characteristics.

But just shows how far by 2016 the gripping misuse of the word gender, when it should actually be sex had crept.

This has been one of the most powerful tools for trans activists by graduallly getting people to use the word gender when they mean sex. they sucessfully lobbied the nuj about this, in much the same way (also part of queeer activism) they got the media to talk about sex "work" rather than prostitution.

It might be worth complaining direct to EHRC and point out how sloppy it makes them look to have this page incorrectly stating what their work is (meant) to be about. [hmmm]

userschmoozer · 14/03/2019 19:18

I'll email my MP but I still haven't heard anything back from him from IWD.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 14/03/2019 19:16

Eh?

Try again,

Reported. This stuff really gets my goat.