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5 Gateshead councillors stick their heads above the parapet

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PimmsnLemonade · 22/01/2019 19:41

Let's see if this gets agreed on Thursday:

democracy.gateshead.gov.uk/documents/s18511/Notice%20of%20Motion%20-%20Gender%20Recognition.pdf

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Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 11:33

Perhaps the councillors just feel they need to hear LGBT views before going forward with the motion as planned

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 11:32

Is protecting actual females considered transphobic?

It would seem so.

Popchyk · 23/01/2019 11:26

And the Gateshead councillors cave.

twitter.com/LGBTLabour/status/1088032815231438848

UPDATE! The Gateshead Councillors have deferred the motion and agreed to meet with LGBT Labour.

If you have a response to the motion that you want us to share at that meeting, please email us at [email protected].

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 11:08

Ssh. Don't let Fanny Haddock hear - he lives quite close I believe.

Of course!

R0wantrees · 23/01/2019 10:53

Followed by LGBT Labour who just can’t wait to whip up hatred, using emotive language and flying into a rage demanding it be removed. Why do they immediately want everything shut down? It does look suspiciously like they have no actual debate to bring to the table.

This was why TRAs needed #nodebate

R0wantrees · 23/01/2019 10:52

Maybe be understanding what Heather Peto is actually telling us:

After a difficult year when some trans rights activists tarnished the Labour Party's LGBT and equality reputation, it is appalling that they attempt to smear Ann Henderson's election to Chair of the Equalities sub-committee

threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3236275-Heather-Peto-is-slagging-off-Mumsnet-on-Twitter

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3140517-Momentum-and-misogyny

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3197556-daily-politics-on-now

5 Gateshead councillors stick their heads above the parapet
HumberElla · 23/01/2019 10:05

Fantastic, well done Gateshead!
Absolutely fair and reasonable.
Followed by LGBT Labour who just can’t wait to whip up hatred, using emotive language and flying into a rage demanding it be removed. Why do they immediately want everything shut down? It does look suspiciously like they have no actual debate to bring to the table.

littlbrowndog · 23/01/2019 09:56

There will be frothing I can guarantee
Frothing

Jackshouse · 23/01/2019 09:53

Transphobic - so they mean that they won’t put the needs of trans people before the needs of women.

On one hand it seems so radical but it’s not. We are going backwards when it comes to women’s rights.

Popchyk · 23/01/2019 09:43

Simon Fanshawe, co-founder of Stonewall, has been taking an interesting position recently.

Of Henderson, he says:

twitter.com/SimonFanshawe/status/1087747903609860096

"This is Ann Henderson’s biography. A pretty impressive and long career from train driver to deput at Scottish TUC. Maybe worth a read @LGBTLabour before your ill judged tweet en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Henderson_(campaigner)"

If allegations are to be made they need to be transparent not just ‘described as transphobic’. If there are serious issues they need to go through the appropriate process not aired via vague press statements."

He seems to take quite a gender-critical line generally.

UbercornsGoggles · 22/01/2019 23:28

I've met Malcolm Brain. Former mayor, lovely man. Very supportive of young people and charities.

PositivelyPERF · 22/01/2019 23:26

We have written to the Councillors who have proposed the motion asking them to withdraw it and meet with us

What exactly is transphobic about it? The councillors have been extremely respectful in how the6 hav3 worded it. Is protecting actual females considered transphobic?

Funny how these people never actually say what the problem is. They simply scream that something is transphobic if it supports women or girls. It’s almost as if they don’t want to admit what the real problem is, for fear of people seeing the, for what the6 really are.

niddy · 22/01/2019 23:20

Brilliant! Some hope for common sense. Let's send them some support. Star

WhereYouLeftIt · 22/01/2019 23:11

"We are aware of an increase in transphobia across the movement."

Hmm. That's interesting. Because translate that from TRA-speak into English and you get

'We've been rumbled and people have started to say no to us.'

And well done those Labour councillors! Puts some of the others to shame.

ChewyLouie · 22/01/2019 22:56

We are aware of an increase in common sense across the movement.
Exterminate!

Bubonicpanic · 22/01/2019 22:55

Fantastic

TheRollingCrone · 22/01/2019 22:46

Common sense breaking out all over 👏👏👏👏

WokeNotBloke · 22/01/2019 22:45

Thank fuck for that. I was beginning to doubt my own sanity 🤪

MrsFogi · 22/01/2019 22:38

Brilliant - I hope that anyone who lives in their wards will contact them to let them know that this is much appreciated (and that they will be getting their vote in the next election).

Iused2BanOptimist · 22/01/2019 22:18

Ssh. Don't let Fanny Haddock hear - he lives quite close I believe.

Olgatheoptimist · 22/01/2019 22:09

Aye it does that!

NoseringGirl · 22/01/2019 22:03

Good work Gateshead! The north east is where common sense prevails Grin

Popchyk · 22/01/2019 21:58

LGBT Labour calling on the councillors to withdraw the motion.

twitter.com/LGBTLabour/status/1087734666109571072

"LGBT Labour has become aware of a motion being proposed by Labour Councillors to Gateshead Council which is damaging to the trans community.

We have written to the Councillors who have proposed the motion asking them to withdraw it and meet with us".

"We are aware of an increase in transphobia across the movement.

If you have any concerns please get in touch with us on: [email protected]

If you would like to report transphobia please contact: [email protected]"

WSPU · 22/01/2019 21:43

Brilliant!

Mytholmroyd · 22/01/2019 21:29

This is brilliant news - lead on you Geordies! Wine (no newkie brown icon available Grin)

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