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Martina Navratilova states the obvious

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Glinner · 19/12/2018 12:16

twitter.com/Martina/status/1075193284660785153

At first I was delighted to see thisat last a big name in women's sport is speaking up! but then I got angry all over again that this utterly obvious point has to be explained to an adult, in this case, a Guardian journalist. It boggles the mind.

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SophoclesTheFox · 22/12/2018 13:52

I will be so disappointed if I don't get that book in my stocking on Tuesday. With its stunning one star review.

Sexnotgender · 22/12/2018 13:52

The reviews on their book are fairly uncomplimentary!

AnyFucker · 22/12/2018 13:48

Easy peasy

Q) should men be competing directly against women in sport

A) no

There....I did it in 0.25 seconds

Iused2BanOptimist · 22/12/2018 13:46

Alas I don't think we'll hear Rachel debating on radio 4 again any time soon, once bitten twice shy. Best stick to key board bullying and blocking anyone who disagrees, so much more soothing, no wonder the radio 4 interview is a source of regret. Wish I had a recording of that. I do recall it didn't go well.

"I don't recall who was the morning host I had to deal with in October, but she was super hostile to trans people...it's the only interview out of DOZENS I've done these past six weeks I've regretted"

Thank you BBC radio 4.

Iused2BanOptimist · 22/12/2018 13:38

One of the students taking her course on sport and gender finished the exam in 25 minutes. I'd love to think it's someone who has been peaktransed by Rachel's course and came up with some pretty succinct answers.
We should have a Mumsnet mini exam competition.

And of course being an accomplished writer is just one of Rachel's many talents. Shame no one want to buy that £60 book. Grin

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Glinner · 22/12/2018 13:27

That Pink News tweet is hilarious. So desperate.

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terryleather · 22/12/2018 13:24

RM is a fanatic, a narcissist, a cheat, a bully and all round fudd.

I don't imagine RM does self reflection. ..

Yambabe · 22/12/2018 13:18

I wish there was a "like" button on here sometimes R0wantrees.

In the meantime please have a Gin Wine or Brew of your choice!

R0wantrees · 22/12/2018 13:08

Its a method of extreme control. As well as silencing those who question the TRA ideology, it also controls those within transgender communities who have signed up to the block lists in good faith from being aware of what is actually said.

The myths of 'thousand of abusive tweets' can be maintained.

The use & consequences of mass 'terf' blocks needs understanding and exposing.

February 2018
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3167753-TERF-Blocker

TRA's use 'how do I find which block list I'm on' to harvest information:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3054826-How-do-I-know-if-I-m-on-a-block-list

Green Party and Stonewall representative's involvement:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3209207-Green-Party-blocking-30-000-women-on-twitter

There have been discussions about whether this may be an issue with regards GDPR.
May 2018, see page 8:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3260432-The-Shame-of-Twitter

also discussion from March 2018:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3200394-Calling-lawyers-and-data-protection-gurus

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3353410-terfblocker-how-does-it-work

Yambabe · 22/12/2018 12:55

Oh noes. For having tweeted in support of Martina to all of my 33 (lol) followers, it seems I am now so dangerous that I too must be blocked by McKinnon immediately! Grin

Funny that. I don't tweet much at all, and it's mostly music-related when I do, but one head-above-the-parapet GC remark and I have had 3x as many likes as I have followers and nearly as many retweets. Seems many people seem to share my opinion.

I do think this insta-block thing that the TRAs do is a shame though. I'm happy to back up any of my views with facts, or if they are solely my opinion to listen if others feel they can disprove them. Come at me (respectfully) folks, change my mind! I don't think a "lalala I'm not listening" fingers-in-ears approach is really going to help anyone.

R0wantrees · 22/12/2018 12:36

Am proper lol @ Penis News saying "An incredible achievement!"

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3390910-Can-we-talk-about-Pink-News-Collecting-examples-of-their-propaganda

ErrolTheDragon · 22/12/2018 12:35

Incredible that a male was allowed to compete in a women's sporting event? Absolutely, beggars belief.

silentcrow · 22/12/2018 12:20

Don't expect anything from Baddiel any time soon Hmm he's not going to open up a third front on Twitter beyond ambiguous snark. He's already had grief over the antisemitism in Labour row and got absolutely slapped a couple of weeks ago by the children's lit community for whining that his and Walliams' books - some of the most heavily promoted rubbish I've ever seen - didn't feature in a newspaper's top recommendations. All mouth and no trousers on this one, I reckon.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/12/2018 12:20

I can see it

Wordthe · 22/12/2018 12:19

The 'incredible achievement' is the scam that they are pulling off

Hahaha I owned you all, what an incredible achievement

Bienchen · 22/12/2018 12:19

Is Martina's Twitter down?

VickyEadie · 22/12/2018 12:17

"An incredible achievement!"

More misuse of language by the TRAs. It's perfectly "credible" for a man to beat women.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/12/2018 12:17

Are Pink News real? Or are they in deep cover, existing to peak trans people at critical moments?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 22/12/2018 12:11

Am proper lol @ Penis News saying "An incredible achievement!"

Brilliant.

AnyFucker · 22/12/2018 12:00

No surprise there

Men beating women in a clear test of speed and strength. Playing field so wonky every body's brain slid off the edge.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/12/2018 11:56

RM still has some support

Martina Navratilova states the obvious
ErrolTheDragon · 22/12/2018 11:50

no publicity is ever bad publicity.

RMs website should definitely be publicised (to clarify matters for any who think the Dr denotes either medical or scientific credentials... as an aside, who the heck styles themselves redundantly as 'Dr X Y, PhD'Confused). And RMs book...maybe it's got more to it than the description implies but if so you'd have thought it might manage at least one non-scathing review?

SophoclesTheFox · 22/12/2018 11:45

How does it feel when pretty much the whole world thinks you’re a cheat, Rache? Hmm?

Tell you what: next time you fancy making a banana of yourself on Twitter, why don’t you go after should Lance Armstrong? I think you’ll find you’ve got loads in common Smile

Macareaux · 22/12/2018 11:38

Morning has barely arrived in North America. McKinnon is not capable of self-reflection and seems to operate on the basis that no publicity is ever bad publicity.

Katvonbatshit · 22/12/2018 11:38

McKinnon is a nasty misogynistic bully